International Hong Kong grounds all flights as protest paralyzes airport. China threatens no mercy.

[Cubo de Sangre]

The whole point of the trade war was to bring jerbs back to Murica.

Isn't their IP theft also at issue?

 

[NoDak]

Isn't their IP theft also at issue?

Don't bother engaging with that dude, Re: China.

 

[NoDak]

Jerbs, Jerbs, NO FUCKING JERBS!!!

 

[MicroBrew]

China on Monday used the strongest language yet to vilify the participants, with the Cabinet's Hong Kong and Macao Affairs Office in Beijing saying the protests are "beginning to show the sprouts of terrorism" and constitute an "existential threat" to the population of Hong Kong.

"One must take resolute action toward this violent criminality, showing no leniency or mercy," said a statement from spokesperson Yang Guang. "Hong Kong has reached an inflection point where all those who are concerned about Hong Kong's future must say 'no,' to lawbreakers and 'no' to those engaged in violence."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/hong-kong-airport-suspends-check-ins-due-to-pro-democracy-protest

So I presume you support the Chinese government going in with boots and smashing the protesters.

 

[lifelessheap]

It's only a matter of time before China goes to far and they are in a multi front civil war.
Hong kong protest
Muslim reeducation camps
Demonic social credit and monitoring system
Tibet suppression
Dissident suppression
Wait until it gets hard to feed people, and then it's over

They see American Freedom. And they are starting to want it.

*Grabs popcorn

 

[Orgasmo]

Patience, babe.

Is this from teh trade war tho? Not entirely.

@Amerikuracana

Great, you managed to get the job numbers in manufacturing sector to 2008 numbers. Now tell me how many billion did US spend on subsidies? I'll give you a hint, not enough tariff revenue to cover the costs.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/02/trump-hired-robert-lighthizer-to-win-a-trade-war-he-lost/

With the December figures, the number of U.S. manufacturing jobs is almost back to the level of December 2008 — though still 1.4 million jobs lower than the official start of the recession in December 2007.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...h-is-due-companies-moving-back/?noredirect=on

 

[Orgasmo]

Don't bother engaging with that dude, Re: China.

I get it. Your selective use of alternate facts often does not stand up to reality checks. Guess why Navarro and Lighthizer are considered fringe hacks by mainstream economists? Don't take my word for it though. Straight from the mouth of Jerome Powell:

Explaining the central bank’s first rate reduction in more than a decade, Powell cited the economic drag of U.S. trade policy uncertainty. Without naming names, he attributed the dimmer growth outlook to America’s tougher approach with its trading partners.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...atest-trump-powell-fed-rate-cut-economy-china

 

[NoDak]

Great, you managed to get the job numbers in manufacturing sector to 2008 numbers. Now tell me how many billion did US spend on subsidies? I'll give you a hint, not enough tariff revenue to cover the costs.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/08/02/trump-hired-robert-lighthizer-to-win-a-trade-war-he-lost/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...h-is-due-companies-moving-back/?noredirect=on

I get it. Your selective use of alternate facts often does not stand up to reality checks. Guess why Navarro and Lighthizer are considered fringe hacks by mainstream economists? Don't take my word for it though. Straight from the mouth of Jerome Powell:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...atest-trump-powell-fed-rate-cut-economy-china

I'm pro-tariffs? Cubo mentioned IP, that's an entirely separate topic. I don't give a fuck about cyclical goods being produced in the US, the manufacturing upswing is largely unrelated and that's been explained at least a half-dozen times. I actually have family in agriculture getting battered by Tariff Man, which would otherwise be kind of hilarious but I'm not that cold.

 

[JDragon]

 

[Javelina]

china doesn't fuck around. they will not put up with this forever. going to be deadly when shit pops off

 

[MicroBrew]

china doesn't fuck around. they will not put up with this forever. going to be deadly when shit pops off

I am still going with my original thinking, that China is not going to go in with troops / police and smash the protesters. That would be extremely damaging to the HK economy and image. They would do it if this were a city in China proper, cause the coverage would be muted and international media would not pay as much attention.

 

[Javelina]

I am still going with my original thinking, that China is not going to go in with troops / police and smash the protesters. That would be extremely damaging to the HK economy and image. They would do it if this were a city in China proper, cause the coverage would be muted and international media would not pay as much attention.

yes you're right. plus the trumps trade wars are impacting this. i could see like a false flag or some of these protesters get froggy and provoke a bit much

 

[NoDak]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...h-is-due-companies-moving-back/?noredirect=on

The whole sector is undergoing a reinvention and many of the new jobs will require skilled labor. It's being driven mostly by a massive volume of available data, developments in analytics and machine learning, new forms of human-machine interaction and the ability to transmit digital instructions to the physical world.

It's cool that WaPo actually went and got Harry Moser. He's a nice guy, genuine champion for Industrial America and I've mentioned him numerous times over the last year. He's staunchly anti-tariffs and cares a lot more about bringing back jobs to produce cyclical goods than I do. It sure as hell wouldn't hurt to have more factories to bid on, but that isn't particularly relevant to geopolitics.

The Reshoring Initiative supports the Trump administration’s trade objectives, but not the tariffs. We have offered the administration our Competitiveness Toolkit, which outlines and quantifies alternative actions. These are intended to avoid retaliation by other countries and to avoid making some domestic sectors more competitive at the expense of others.

Several trends drive the shift from offshoring to reshoring: the rising costs of offshore production; the impact of distance on quality, innovation, flexibility, responsiveness, inventory and availability; improved U.S. competitiveness via new production technologies; and the increased use of a more sophisticated total cost of ownership (TCO) model—provided by the Reshoring Initiative—to quantify the hidden costs and risks of offshoring.

Tools offered by the Reshoring Initiative are well worth getting to know. For example, the organization’s Library shows industries and companies that are reshoring, and could be a potential source of new business. Another tool, the TCO Estimator, can help business and their customers make better sourcing decisions. It helps companies account for all relevant factors—overhead, balance sheet, risks, corporate strategy and other external and internal business considerations—to determine the true total cost.

 

[bufetadanacara]

Why Can’t Taiwan, Vietnam, Indonesia, and Malaysia take their place?

I wish they could. I'm not a fan of anything Chinese.

 

[NoDak]

Looks like a dystopian nightmare to me.

Heh, coming soon.

 

[NoDak]

The NY Post? Hmm.

 

[WhiteMousse]

I don't understand. What are people protesting?

 

[WhiteMousse]

EDIT: Goddammit Sherdog

 

[JonesBones]

Don't bother engaging with that dude, Re: China.

Nice yellows. Anyway, Trump just delayed some tariffs on China and market is up.

 

[NoDak]

I don't understand. What are people protesting?

Tranny Rights.