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Holyfield - Greatest chin in combat sports history?

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  1. Seano Hands of bone

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    I'm sure I saw video of Algieri getting stopped in kickboxing.
     
  2. DeJulez Banned Banned

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    that was amateur and he beat the guy professionally.

    20-0 Pro Kickboxing, Two world titles.
    20-2 Pro boxing, former world champion.
    All State Wrestler
    Black belt Chinese Kempo.


    Apparently he doesnt care for or watch MMA.
     
  3. DeJulez Banned Banned

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    Realistically how far could Algieri go in boxing?
    A jump to MMA with his credentials....he beats McGregor, badly.
     
  4. airic_15 The suspense is terrible. I hope it’ll last

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  5. robjenkins2 Gold Belt

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    I'm pretty sure he does some work with Weidman.
     
  6. robjenkins2 Gold Belt

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    I highly doubt that.
     
  7. Social Distance Warrior Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Mark Hunt, Roy Nelson should get honorable mentions.
     
  8. DeJulez Banned Banned

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    I started a thread about it in the heavies.
    Its getting good responses.
    Really Algieri is a stylistic nightmare for Conor
     
  9. nac386 Steel Belt

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    That's an impressive resume as an all around athlete. The guy lacks the kind of power that a top boxer usually needs, but he has everything else he needs to be a champion again.

    The problem with a transition to MMA is that he is making like $500k a fight in boxing. That would make him one of the highest paid guys in the UFC. I'm pretty sure that's what Mendes made to fight McGregor in the UFC's biggest fight of the year. Top boxers make way more than top UFC guys.

    Algieri vs McGregor would be a lot of fun. It'd be one of the highest skilled matches, boxing wise, that the UFC has ever seen.
     
  10. Canelo Purple Belt

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    Not really.

    Mccreggor takes him down and subs him, he's a BJJ brown belt and has good wrestling skills, much more advanced than Algieri.

    You're assuming he stands and trades with him.
     
  11. DeJulez Banned Banned

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    McGregors grappling isn't good.
    Algieri did it for 4 years and was All State.
    If he was legitimate at transitioning to the UFC than u know Weidman would be in his camp training him.
    Its not like Mcgregor is a grappling specialist.
     
  12. Social Distance Warrior Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Good post...

    I think Algeri would do great in MMA. he has the speed, and grappling back ground to deter/handle take downs.

    He has a kick boxing background so I assume he knows how to check kicks. and standing with him would be a disaster for most MMA fighters.

    Fact is, he just makes a hell of a lot more money in boxing...

    how much did he get for the Pac fight? like 1.2 million, right?
     
  13. nac386 Steel Belt

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    It reportedly exceeded $1.5 million. Also, as a boxer he can actually have a bunch of his own sponsors and make money year-round. He doesn't have to sell his soul to Reebok for peanuts, or sell his likeness to the UFC.

    Boxing is just a better business to be in right now.
     
  14. robjenkins2 Gold Belt

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    Boxing has always been a better business when it comes to making money for the fighters.
     
  15. robjenkins2 Gold Belt

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    Based on what? He's no Damian Maia but his grappling is absolutely very good, his guard isn't but overall his grappling is good. 5 years ago may have been a different story.
     
  16. Cracky Fanny Pack

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    Oh.. Toney had talked too much shit to stay down ever..lol...he was a cocky stubborn sob
     
  17. ironfist05 Silver Belt

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    Algieri's not going far in terms of greatness. If Algieri is smart with his matchups, he could pick up an alphabelt, but that's about it (he's not beating Crawford, Matthysse, don't think he beats Broner either, among others).

    That said, because of his fights with Provo, Pac, and Khan, Algieri is a known name, and he's pulling in waaaay better money to lose to elite guys looking for semi-competitive tuneups, than he is to face a guy like McGregor.
     
  18. treelo //Do something here

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    for more recent fighters, this is the answer

    Oliver McCall is the toughest fucker i have seen in my entire life, he didnt even pretend to roll with shots or block them like other guys mentioned did, he just took them flush and kept on fighting

    i'm also fuzzy though, did he get a bit wobbled when he fought Akinwande?
     
  19. KillerIsBack V2 Red Belt

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    wrong, he frequently goes to spar in an MMA gym, and loves to watch it, and constantly mentioned how muhc he admires it.
    He says he's in boxing cause he loves it more, but I doubt it. He's jsut doing the best money maker he can. If he really jsut wanted to challenge himself ina sport he loves, he would have accepted the Crawford fight.
     
  20. korean blood Keep tracks that make an Arab thief clap Platinum Member

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    Was? Lol
     

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