Holloway hasn't been taken down in 9 fights

[Pequeño Corey]

Max has obviously worked on his TDD since Conor.

Fili scored a few, then Collard, but that's pretty much it.

You guys need to stop with this "Conor took him down 4x blah blah blah." That was a long time ago. Fighters get better.

Not picking Max to win, but I think his TDD is going to surprise everyone. He'll do better than some are giving him credit for.

 

[bolly32]

How many world class wrestlers out of those nine?

 

[Arm Barbarian]

Khabib is on an entirely different level of wrestling to any of those opponents though, and at a higher weightclass.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

How many world class wrestlers out of those nine?

I have no defense here. But Lamas is a damned good wrestler. Cole Miller is a good grappler as well. If you look at the fights individually, he stuffed TD's from both of those guys. It's not like they weren't trying.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Khabib is on an entirely different level of wrestling to any of those opponents though, and at a higher weightclass.

True. He's never faced a wrestler on Khabib's level. This is part of the reason I was looking forward to the Frankie fight so much. I wanted to see how Max handled Frankie's wrestling.

 

[chitoortiz]

Khabib has better TD's than all those guys combined.

 

[Sansnom]

Those guys aren't Khabib.

This is how it will most probably play out

+ this for 5 rounds

 

[YaWinSumYaLoseSum]

I also haven’t fucked a tranny on accident in Thailand yet. But we know it’s inevitanle

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Lamas ans Stephens are the last ones to really try to force the TD. Neither of them are known for their TDs. Lamas' overall ground game is strong but his TDs aren't all that special imo.

Khabib both stylistically and physically is just a different beast.

 

[Norman Khabib]

Max has obviously worked on his TDD since Conor.

Fili scored a few, then Collard, but that's pretty much it.

You guys need to stop with this "Conor took him down 4x blah blah blah." That was a long time ago. Fighters get better.

Not picking Max to win, but I think his TDD is going to surprise everyone. He'll do better than some are giving him credit for.

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The problem with what you're saying is McGregor is in no way a grappler, he tore his ACL early on and still made Holloway look like a chump on ground, but you're making it sound like Max was facing Khabib and has now improved. Even if he has improved significantly it's not gonna be close to enough, he's facing someone that was a better grappler before he even turned 16, and if you think HE hasn't been improving during the same period you're crazy. Khabib has been working with Cormier ffs he's probably improving (in the grappling) at a faster rate because he's just far more intelligent in that area.

There are levels to this shit, and Holloway has dog shit level grappling

 

[RyuHayabusa]

 

[rurouni]

yeah, aldo and khabib are about same in terms of takedns/grappling
with pettis a close 2nd

 

[Pequeño Corey]

The problem with what you're saying is McGregor is in no way a grappler, he tore his ACL early on and still made Holloway look like a chump on ground, but you're making it sound like Max was facing Khabib and has now improved. Even if he has improved significantly it's not gonna be close to enough, he's facing someone that was a better grappler before he even turned 16, and if you think HE hasn't been improving during the same period you're crazy. Khabib has been working with Cormier ffs he's probably improved (in the grappling) at a faster rate because he's just far more intelligent in that area.

There are levels to this shit, and Holloway has dog shit level grappling

You don't think Max will be able to stuff any takedowns at all?

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Yikes which one of Khabib's ragdolls was that?

 

[aerozeppelin]

this is going to make up for all nine of them if he doesn't put on 40 lbs and cut back down to 155 within 6 days.

 

[Gilday]

How many of his last few opponents were grapplers though?

Not trying to discredit Max he's clearly the best FW in the world right now, but Khabib is a different level of grappling

 

[Dart Feld]

Yikes which one of Khabib's ragdolls was that?

Vs. Abel Trujillo in a fight where he set a UFC record of 21 TDs.

 

[UncleMachidaEra]

When was the last time you saw a bear get taken down?

 

[Norman Khabib]

You don't think Max will be able to stuff any takedowns at all?

Anything can happen in a fight, and I've already mentioned that a weight-drained Khabib could end up looking like Joanna Jedrzejczyk did against Rose Namajunas, and Max probably still hits hard enough to get the job done. I just think he's gonna spend every round bar the 1st on the ground getting smashed. He's tough but he ain't that tough, we saw his will drain from him against McGregor even if he was a young un at the time.

 

[chitoortiz]

The problem with what you're saying is McGregor is in no way a grappler, he tore his ACL early on and still made Holloway look like a chump on ground, but you're making it sound like Max was facing Khabib and has now improved. Even if he has improved significantly it's not gonna be close to enough, he's facing someone that was a better grappler before he even turned 16, and if you think HE hasn't been improving during the same period you're crazy. Khabib has been working with Cormier ffs he's probably improving (in the grappling) at a faster rate because he's just far more intelligent in that area.

There are levels to this shit, and Holloway has dog shit level grappling

You mean lay and pray know means make someone look like a chump?