International Hezbollah pager explosions kill dozens and injure thousands in Lebanon

[Andy Capp]

You’d be surprised. There was a printer from a well-known brand that could be hacked and get it to run so hot that would make the printer overheat and catch fire.

Not as cool as the pager thing obviously but still scary.

I find the pager thing to be not as cool as I originally did since they had to add explosives. It's typically not that impressive to make explosives explode, IMHO. The initial report said the idea was to make the batteries themselves explode with nothing other than intervention via software and that would have been scary cool indeed. Remotely making someone's building burn down because you made their printer catch fire is impressively scary.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Here's the latest info on the pagers.

How Israeli spies 'stashed explosives in 5,000 European-made pagers at production level months ago before detonating Hezbollah devices' - as 'coded text message that triggered blasts' is revealed​

From the article:

Can't possibly applaud loud enough. Magnificent

 

[Whippy McGee]

Genius.... the terrorists lost their dicks.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Genius.... the terrorists lost their dicks.

And ten year old kids also died but I'm sure that's cool.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

I simply don t understand why anyone in the West decides to suck Israeli dick. I mean you don‘t have to love Iran or Hezbollah or whatever, but what the fuck do you get out of backing that criminal state?

I think there's a few factors

Ethnic identity- While it's a "Middle East conflict," Israel is obviously much more Western and white, so there's a commonality there.

Anti-Muslim sentiment- Yeah, Israeli actions seem shitty but damn are all these Muslims around annoying, so I'm just gonna side with whoever is against them. This is big in Europe, I'm guessing.

Political identity- The Palestine cause is a pretty major one with the left and progressives so siding with Israel is just a matter of principle for many right-wingers. This is big in the US.

Historical reasons- I think it was Finkelstein or Chomsky that pointed out that in UN voting, the other Western countries that support Israel (aside from the US) are Canada and Australia. They suspect it's because they're also countries with settler colonialist pasts so there's sympathy with Israel's situation.

 

[kflo]

Tactically, it's wild and in a moral vacuum I can see the military logic behind it.

Morally and legally, this is ridiculously fucked up and is not a great precedent to set for international law and trade.

again, it's unclear what an acceptable response is to terrorists organizations and their members that attack you looks like. can't bomb, can't invade, can't target with pager bombs.............what is acceptable?

 

[Morning Star]

again, it's unclear what an acceptable response is to terrorists organizations and their members that attack you looks like. can't bomb, can't invade, can't target with pager bombs.............what is acceptable?

Rolling over and dying is the only acceptable response. Only one side is held to any moral standard on here.

 

[Rholk]

Seems like someone unfriendly to the Hezbollah movement has managed to do a second round of attacks via more electronic devices.
Doesn't look like its just limited to the beepers.

Fucking amazing.

 

[shunyata]

again, it's unclear what an acceptable response is to terrorists organizations and their members that attack you looks like. can't bomb, can't invade, can't target with pager bombs.............what is acceptable?

Striking a target with ordinance in another nation without the authorization of that nations government is a violation of sovereignty.

Yes, you can't invade other countries or bomb them without starting an international shitshow.

 

[fingercuffs]

There are two women in a Norcal Facebook group I still post in that are convinced China have put bombs in our iphones waiting to detonate. No joke.

 

[syct23]

Genius.... the terrorists lost their dicks.

The interesting thing about this is that we learned where different parts of the world keep their phones.

If this were done in America, everyone’s asses would be blown off since everyone pretty much keep their phones in their back pockets..

 

[kflo]

Striking a target with ordinance in another nation without the authorization of that nations government is a violation of sovereignty.

Yes, you can't invade other countries or bomb them without starting an international shitshow.

again, what's an acceptable way to respond to terrorists who attack from another country?

 

[Islam Imamate]

again, what's an acceptable way to respond to terrorists who attack from another country?

Its perfectly fair to kill them.

Part of the issue is the Palestinians are denied this right to self defense in the West Bank and are expected to sit on their hands while Jewish extremists terrorize them on a daily basis. Since you agree its fair to kill terrorists does that give the Palestinian in the WB the right to resist the terrorist settlers who attack them?

 

[oldshadow]

Still not really acceptable for me. If people want to cheer the killing of 10 year old girls then that's up to them.

Who is cheering the death of any kids. Like I said it's a very sad fact of war. It should make people not want war. However some people see civilians as cover and children as best used as walking bombs.

 

[Confucamus]

Part of the hold up in the negotiations is precisely that Israel refuses to stop even if the hostages are released whereas Hamas' primary condition for releasing the hostages is an indefinite ceasefire.

I don't want to defend Hamas here because they did recklessly attack Israel and hostage taking is a war crime but the point is Hamas releasing the hostages won't end the war.

I don't know if you're right or wrong on that, but there is a 100% chance the war will NOT end if Hamas doesn't turn over the hostages. Giving Israel back the hostages should be baseline before Hamas is even granted an opportunity to discuss a ceasefire.

 

[Rholk]

Not a good time to be a terrorist

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Tactically, it's wild and in a moral vacuum I can see the military logic behind it.

Morally and legally, this is ridiculously fucked up and is not a great precedent to set for international law and trade.

you can definitely see the idea behind it, but there are lots of ideas that people come up with that don't move forward due to collateral damage and unintended/ unforeseen consequences.
Israel is a racist supremacist country that doesn't consider any of those things.

 

[White Whale]

And ten year old kids also died but I'm sure that's cool.

Islamic terrorists have no issues targeting children so they can't expect their enemies to follow the rules of war when they do not.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I don't know if you're right or wrong on that, but there is a 100% chance the war will NOT end if Hamas doesn't turn over the hostages. Giving Israel back the hostages should be baseline before Hamas is even granted an opportunity to discuss a ceasefire.

I am right and Israel's Defense Minister said as much recently

Speaking to reporters, Yoav Gallant said that conditions are ripe for at least a six-week pause in fighting that would include the release of many of the hostages held in Gaza. However, he would not commit to a permanent end to the fighting, as Hamas has demanded, raising questions about the feasibility of a deal.

“Israel should achieve an agreement that will bring about a pause for six weeks and bring back hostages,” he said. After that period, he said, “we maintain the right to operate and achieve our goals — including the destruction of Hamas.”

Hamas should give up the hostages because hostage taking is a war crime but no one should be under any illusions that their giving up the hostages will end the war. If anything it would mean they lose any remaining leverage to negotiate for an indefinite ceasefire.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

What are legitimate ways to fight terrorist organizations and terrorists?

is your answer blindly setting off explosives in grocery stores, hospitals, and cars?