Hey WWE guys. I have a UFC 232 related question....

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  1. warriorscommando

    warriorscommando I will always protect you

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    Ok. He fucked WWE because he is Vince level bastard.

    I knew I was forgetting about something. I’m not Meltzer and I wasn’t ‘schooling’ anybody.

    Ps
    Have a good NYE Frank!
     
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  2. ProBoxingInsidr

    ProBoxingInsidr Silver Belt

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    man, you would think TS would have at least caught a Wrestlemania or 2 while flipping through the channels
     
  3. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    What channels? I'm not American and I don't have cable TV at home.
    Netflix+Kodi+whatever we download
     
  4. Fadetoblack918

    Fadetoblack918 Purple Belt

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    Would love to find a clip of the segment if you have any more info on it. What year was this? What show was it on?
     
  5. sleepwalk

    sleepwalk pork roll, egg and cheese belt Platinum Member

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    The fact that Cena brought up Roman's Wellness Policy violation (said by most to be failure to report prescription med) in a promo and that Roman didn't immediately respond with "When was the last time you pissed in a cup, John?" will forever be, to me, a sign of 1) how much stroke Cena will always have, 2) how much of a company man Roman is, and/or 3) how un-witty Roman is.
     
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  6. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    Now wait a minute:

    1. Do they actually speak about PEDs in their promos?
    2. Do they improvize? I was always under impression that they have written scripts...
     
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    sleepwalk pork roll, egg and cheese belt Platinum Member

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    1) If there's anything that's off-limits, it's the talk of steroids. From 1993-1995, Vince McMahon was in borderline paranoia (it's not paranoia if they're really out to get you) over an indictment linking him to actual steroid distribution charges (found not guilty.) He was piss testing his guys every house show, sometimes twice a day. Add in the hype around "roid rage" being touted as a factor in the Benoit murders/suicide, and it's probably the #1 no-go in a company that has done incest, necrophilia, miscarriages, etc in storylines and exploited the family struggles, addiction issues, and even deaths of actual performers.

    2) These days, it's more scripted than it ever used to be and improv is at your peril (even if it gets over with the crowd.) It's helped some performers and hurt others.

    But...

    3) If there's anybody, quite possibly in the history of forever, who can get away with saying stuff like that, it is John Cena. As much or more so than The Rock. The guy has straight up snow plowed the careers of a dozen guys and nearly as many females.
     
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  8. warriorscommando

    warriorscommando I will always protect you

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    Which part? Because a lot of this is like wrestlers saying in podcasts that Taker would never agree to piss in a cup. Or that such and such never would get tested. Podcasts aren’t searchable and the written info might be in dirtsheets behind paid paywalls.

    Nuggets and Lakers arena change

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/wwe-forced-change-venues-84371 (Look above for the segment about Vince putting two sides of wrestlers into Jerseys). Tv show not PPV and nobody flying on.

    The ‘part-timer’ ruler for Lesnar (and obviously Taker, Cena, Rock, HBK) you can google. It’s after Lesnar popped for roids in the UFC.

    Orton had the ‘Wellness’ rules changed for him after popping for the third time.

    WWE ‘Wellness’ is deliberately opaque and the UFC is moving into that with their recent subtle restrictions on informing about busts.
     
  9. FrankieNYC

    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    Yo man
    Reigns was popped & suspended

    but the truth is ...
    WWE Wellness Policy is not about PED's
    It is about Prescription drugs & Addictive drugs.
    WWE's biggest issue were performers becoming addictive to pain pills & getting multiple scripts
    Now every script has to be WWE approved and if they test with more than they should have in them, they might et put into rehab
    The testing can be strict & a few performers were suspended for missing the deadline for submitting info from their doctors.

    they do test for PED's, but the threshold is high

    the WP has saved lives, so it is far from a joke & doing what it is intended to do.

    But PED's are not the priority because it is not a real competition

    if someone is taking crazy levels, they will be suspended like roman was a few years back
     
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    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    But even Cena won't get Jones' treatment from WWE...right?
     
  11. AimedWithV

    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    You know, I see something completely different in PEDs usage in MMA from other sports.
    While every athlete that takes PEDs/illegal substances/drugs/overdoses prescription drugs, all of them hurt their own body and health in a process - in full contact sports, taking PEDs actually also harms another opponent, more than it's supposed to without PEDs.

    So I'm kinda OK that WWE has higher tolerance for PEDs for their athletes - especially that they have to sell their muscles, which is not necessary in MMA
     
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    FrankieNYC "My balls was hot!" Platinum Member

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    Plus if it is true that PED's help with recovery, those guys/girls put their body through a lot
     
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    AimedWithV Wound in the Force

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    They definitely do.

    You know what Justin Wren did/does in Africa for the pygmys, right?
    So he was updating UG community about everyday work there, and told everyone how sore he is and that one day he couldn't come out of his room from exhaustion.
    Immediately every pro fighter on UG responded to him : "Take steroids, Justin! Use steroids!" And he said them like "Yeah, I know I know"
     
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  14. sleepwalk

    sleepwalk pork roll, egg and cheese belt Platinum Member

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    Not really. They wouldn't turn on a dime and relocate an event on two weeks notice but he opted out of Saudi Arabia, opted out of carrying Undertaker at WM33, can bury guys for petty stuff regardless of the office's plans. Apples to apricots but I'd have to say no.

    My best friend said the same thing. You want to run faster, lift heavier, or hit a ball farther? Who cares? But (American) football, MMA, etc, you're hurting people. I can see the point.

    This is the big one. Everybody remembers the asterisks on Bond, McGwire, the creepy white guy that used to be Sammy Sosa, etc, but it was the pitchers who started using them first. Throwing a baseball that hard and that often is horribly destructive to a human arm and shoulder. The juice heals.
     
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  15. Dorkman

    Dorkman Red Belt

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    Plenty of times. Difference is, all they're doing is putting on a scripted show. Not actually posing as fair combat competition.
     

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