Herniated Disk — Its spinal [UPDATE] Also have COVID

What’s up, Sherbros — on Monday I was repping out my final deadlift set and felt a little pop. Two days later I can barely move. Now, on Friday I just can’t get comfortable or sleep at all.

My wife is a PT and she’s been treating it to limited success so far, but this is a real bitch. She’s 6 months pregnant so it’s difficult for her to really work on me right now to the fullest extent.

Anyone else ever get a bad back injury? Just curious of anyone else’s experience.


Cliffs: Hurt back deadlifting. Much pain. Very ouch.
I crushed a disk and injured 2 more falling in my basement a few years ago. They had to spend a couple days teaching me to walk again. I literally could not walk, it was the wierdest feeling because you see it in the movies and stuff and you just don't know until you have to deal with it.

After I got sent home the 2 worst things were:

A: Getting out of the bed in the morning was a 30 step/5 minute process.
B: Wiping my ass
C: Putting on socks. To this day I can barely reach down to put a sock on my left foot.

I am by no means disabled. I am youngish and can do most things I used to but just little stuff like the sock thing still linger.
 
That's why someone should get an MRI

They diagnosed me with a simple muscle strain. Had me in physical therapy for a few months. After they told me I should be doing better than I am they referred me back to my primary who ordered an MRI and that's when they discovered the bulging disc. Physical therapy immediately told me to stop the exercises they'd had me doing for months and to do new ones that were opposite motions - stretching back instead of forward. They didn't spell it out directly but the forward stretching exercises were forcing more material out of the disc. Opposite of what we wanted. Well, what I wanted. They don't really give a fuck. They still get paid.
 
A coworker quit work at the age of 38 because of back trouble. When he was 44, he tucked a shotgun under his chin and blew his brains out. I always considered myself lucky that I never had back trouble until I was 54. I got out of bed started to walk and my legs collapsed and I couldn't feel them. I got twisted around and the feeling came back. An MRI showed a PARS defect at L5. Where my spine meets my pelvis the L5 vertebrae doesn't have the pieces to keep it aligned so the spinal cord is being compressed. I could have been born with it or it could be a result of injuries. The doctor said just twisting wrong could paralyze me from the waist down. He didn't want to risk operating on it. His advice was to retire on disability. I worked for over 20 more years. Now I have trouble controlling where my right leg goes and my left calf muscle feels like it's cramping most of the time.

Good times!

Holy fuck. I guess there's a lot of good luck in there too but that shitty now. You on all the drugs or what?
 
A herniated disc will usually heal itself,it may take some time, so just take it easy and look into getting physiotherapy if you can.
 
I’m no deadlift expert but I think if you do the deadlift in reverse, it should also reverse whatever damage you did and put the disc back in place.

report back with your results
 
This is part of why I started pulling sumo. Yeah it doesn't look as cool and people think it's cheating (it's not, and I'm not competing so idgaf) but my back feels so much better pulling heavy now. I'll still pull stiff legged conventional or RDLs once a week though, just at a much lower percentage.

Once you recover OP I suggest experimenting with sumo deads if you haven't already.
 
I'm addicted to deadlifting. I know I shouldn't do it so much especially as I approach 40, but I just want that 500lb deadlift so bad. At least I have the wherewithal to listen to my body and know when to say when.

This is part of why I started pulling sumo. Yeah it doesn't look as cool and people think it's cheating (it's not, and I'm not competing so idgaf) but my back feels so much better pulling heavy now. I'll still pull stiff legged conventional or RDLs once a week though, just at a much lower percentage.

Once you recover OP I suggest experimenting with sumo deads if you haven't already.
I planned on switching to sumo to save my back, but for some reason it puts massive strain on my left shoulder if I go too heavy even with using straps. I still do them as an accesory lift, but I have a hard cutoff where I know it can cause pain.
 
A coworker quit work at the age of 38 because of back trouble. When he was 44, he tucked a shotgun under his chin and blew his brains out. I always considered myself lucky that I never had back trouble until I was 54. I got out of bed started to walk and my legs collapsed and I couldn't feel them. I got twisted around and the feeling came back. An MRI showed a PARS defect at L5. Where my spine meets my pelvis the L5 vertebrae doesn't have the pieces to keep it aligned so the spinal cord is being compressed. I could have been born with it or it could be a result of injuries. The doctor said just twisting wrong could paralyze me from the waist down. He didn't want to risk operating on it. His advice was to retire on disability. I worked for over 20 more years. Now I have trouble controlling where my right leg goes and my left calf muscle feels like it's cramping most of the time.

Good times!

Damn.

When I hear stuff like this it makes me feel fortunate that I don't have nearly the pain and issues others have when it comes to back and nerve issues. It also reminds me that there are some tough SOBs out there that tough it out and deal with it. Amazing.
 
Oh it'll put a fear of god in you for sure. Anything back, really. Before I started lifting, i used to sit in the most fucked up positions imaginable until a day when I felt this shooting pain as if someone snapped my spine right in half. I fell on the ground and couldn't get up for about 20 min. It will make you paranoid as fuck for months. Any time i get my back spasms i dread deadlifting for weeks and sometimes a month or two. But lifting is what saved my back in the long run. I no longer go past, say, 85% of my max on DL. I'm focused on total control of the movement and perfect form on every rep. I know I'll probably never progress as fast as if I worked like Westside guys do, but I also know I'm not an athlete in his early 20s. You gotta be smarter and smarter over time. My wife turns 30 in December and she just got her first back spasms, not even that bad compared to what I've had in the past, and she was like wtf, totally got paranoid that it was something much more serious, started overanalyzing, looking shit up online and stuff. She's strong, probably stronger than 95% of women anywhere, hell, her numbers started creeping up on mine (i could usually outlift her 2:1 in weight everywhere, now we're at 1.5:1 at best) but she also has 6 years on me and an actual athletic background, so she's been fine doing her lifting the way she's been used to, very little stretching, very heavy weights etc. until now. She's at a chiro literally right now for the second day in a row, and I think she's finally realizing that she needs to start making adjustments, that her body's piling miles on it and that she needs to start getting smarter about how she trains if she's wants to stay healthy and strong. Age and mileage are real. You gotta be smart.

I've been thinking of doing a 100mile mountain running race but the thought of the wear and tear on the body, and potential consequences are terrifying.
 
what made me mad was I know it was just the one rep of bad form. I was rushing and *pop*.
That sucks. I only ever do low reps of deadlifts for that reason. My form gets a lot worse the more reps I do.
 
You can build a nice physique using 1 plate on each side of the bar. People overdo it on the weights.

What does the russian school of lifting say? Either lift heavy or fast?

At my age I throw in bench press with my core. the core is the main workout, the bench is added. I start with one plate, and then add bands to the barbell, and then only go up to adding 25s on each side. that is the max i have on the barbell, and I'm good with that.
 
Holy fuck. I guess there's a lot of good luck in there too but that shitty now. You on all the drugs or what?

My regular doctor wanted to put me on pain meds but the back specialist says that just allows people to not feel the pain while doing more damage. That doctor had me doing physical therapy. While at the therapist, one of the muscles in my lower back that the exercises were supposed to strengthen spasmed and became rock hard. I was laying on my back on the table as she reached under me ans massaged it with her fingers. She didn't want me to move and seemed quite concerned. I told her I thought if I twisted a bit it might help. I did that and it released. After I got home, I got a call that I wouldn't be doing anymore physical therapy because the muscles were strong enough.

I had thought it was odd in the first place. The muscles pull and put more stress on the joints not the other way around.
 
My ma had a similar finding with regards to her upper spine, at 68 was told she must have had an incident at some point that damaged some vertebrae, and that any sudden jolt now could paralyse her. Crazy shit

Personally ice head back issues since I was 18, neck issues since 14

Have you found any way of alleviating the calf pain/cramps?

I have a compression brace that I put on the calf that helps some but it often takes a couple of weeks to get back to somewhat normal.
 
Back injuries suck. Hope you are on the mend soon. Beware the pain meds!
 
AT least you were doing something manley... I bent over to pick up a piece of a paper off my office floor and did it.

My brother separated his patella tendon from his knee playing tennis...shit just breaks after 40...sucks...


Lose weight, keep mid section strong - dont even notice it 8 years later unless I overdo stuff like 12 hrs yard working. I bought a little tractor for that now.
 
I’m no deadlift expert but I think if you do the deadlift in reverse, it should also reverse whatever damage you did and put the disc back in place.

report back with your results
Close. Reverse hypers cured Louie Simmons broken back twice.
 
Using deadlifts for rep work instead of Romanian deadlifts, back extensions or good mornings. Man who is writing your program?
 
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