Heres a George St Pierre fun fact

Lawler is much different animal right now in my opinion. But Prime GSP 50-45 always... :/
 
Th3Sav4ge said:
fedor

it was never debatable
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It's foolish to say he isn't goat of 170 or top five goat of all time, but he was much more exciting in the beginning of his career.

He got smart and came up with a game plan that would never put him in harms way. Nobody could keep up with his wrestling and athleticism. Two major reasons why he was so good.
 
Thai Domi said:
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Not a GOAT.
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LOL... What part did GSP himself play in that ?

It was noticed, and the NSAC officials toweled him off the whole rest of the fight.

BJ took his mom with him to the NSAC to cry about it. TO THE DEATH GEORGES.

They found no intentional wrongdoing on behalf of GSP. Which love of your life did he beat ?

You people continue to be the worst segment of mma fans... EVER. And it's not even close.

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GSP is the GOAT. With Silva and Jones being caught cheating and Fedor refusing to fight the top dogs there is no other answer.
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Th3Sav4ge said:
diaz finished lawler and daley. sucks he under performed in the gsp fight
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Love Diaz but he didn't under perform, GSP is just the fuckin' GOAT. No holes in that man's game.
 
Boy I bet if I could sit with Hendricks away from the spotlight and have a beer....he would confess that he never fully recovered from getting denied his moment by the judges in that gsp fight. Talk about a moment that could have changed his life
 
ExitLUPin said:
Hendricks fight is still one of the biggest robberies in MMA history BTW
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It's not even close to one of the biggest robberies. They both won two rounds each. Judges scoring one round wrong is not the biggest robbery of all time. You must be new.
 
ExitLUPin said:
Close, competitive fights can have clear winners and be considered a robbery. Literally every media outlet scored it for Hendricks for a reason. Its a robbery in the same vein of Shogun/Lyoto 1 in that sense in only the batshit crazy GSP/Lyoto fans for the most part had him winning.
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Shogun vs Machida 1 was not a robbery either. That fight was much closer then most people say it was. I did have Shogun but it's not that hard to see it scored for Machida.
 
Pingu said:
Shogun vs Machida 1 was not a robbery either. That fight was much closer then most people say it was. I did have Shogun but it's not that hard to see it scored for Machida.
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It was man. You can revise history all u want but its one of the worst decisions ever. The outrage was unprecedented and practically everyone had it Shogoon

- The audience was largely in favor of Machida before the fight. After the decision was announced, the only thing you could hear was boos, boos and more boos.

- Rogan and Goldberg gave the fight to Shogun.




Dana White: "I thought Shogun won"

Link:
Dana White "I thought Shogun won the fight." [video]




MMA journalists, websites:

FightMetric: 49-47 Rua
CompuStrike: Rua outlanded Machida 89-50 in Total Strikes landed including 73 Leg Strikes landed. Rua dominated the fight and did just about everything he needed to do to beat the undefeated Machida, including outlanding Machida in every round, but apparently it wasn't enough for the judges.
Yahoo Sports / Cagewriter: 48-47 Rua
BloodyElbow : 48-47 Rua
USAToday: 48-47 Rua, 49-46 Rua
Savage Science: 49-46 Rua
ESPN / Jake Rossen: 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMA Fanhouse / Michael David Smith: 48-47 Rua
411mania.com: 48-47 Rua
CagePotato: 49-46 Rua
MMATorch : 48-47 Rua
MMAJunkie : 49-46 or 48-47 Rua
MMAMania : 50-45 Rua
5 Ounces of Pain : Rua (no score given)
Fightlinker : Rua (no score given)
MMAConvert: Rua ("Machida was given a gift")
ProMMA.Info: 50-45 Rua
Sherdog:
Jordan Breen -- 48-47 Rua
Brian Knapp -- 48-47 Rua
Mike Fridley -- 50-45 Rua
Sports Illustrated (thanks jamers):
Ben Fowlkes - Rua ("They say you have to clearly beat the champion if you want to take his belt. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua seemed to have done just that at UFC 104 on Saturday night, but the mere fact that UFC light heavyweight champ Lyoto Machida was still conscious at the end was apparently enough for the judges to give him the victory")
Joss Gross: 48-47 Rua
MMARising / Robert Sargeant (thanks TheEnigma): 49-46 Rua
FightLine: 49-46 Rua (thanks karatelarusso)
Loretta Hunt (thanks On Letting Go): Rua ("I am very disappointed in the decision. Very upsetting. The sport owes Mauricio "Shogun" Rua a big apology.")
TATAME (thanks Radamantis): "Maurício “Shogun” Rua was the underdog, but the 2005 Pride GP champion “surprised” everybody with a perfect strategy and performance, dominating three out of five rounds against Lyoto Machida, but losing by unanimous decision (48-47)."

credit: dystemper (thanks for compiling most of this list) and others for contributing (listed above)

Dystemper's original thread:
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/wha.../#post34126203




Pro fighters who thought Shogun won:

- Anthony Johnson (post-fight conference)
- Joe Stevenson (post-fight conference)
- Cain Velasquez (post-fight conference)
- Shane Carwin (via Twitter)
"great night of fights. further proof you have to finish as the judges just can't score MMA"
- Denis Kang (via Twitter)
"Shogun got robbed last night IMO."
- Efrain Escudero (via Twitter)
"I'm sorry but shogun won that fight easy"
- Kenny Florian (via Twitter)
"I love Machida but Shogun won that fight!!"
- Joe Lauzon (via Twitter)
"I think Shogun won it."
- Frank Trigg
"he [Shogun] got robbed, was looking 4 don king"
- Roy Nelson
"I just lost $5 on shogun, I am mad, shogun won 4 rounds to 1"
- Joe Doerkson
"Shogun won four rounds out of five ... I am disgusted."
- Brendan Schaub
"Shogun won that fight."
- Jorge Gurgel
"Wow. I was cheering for Machida, but believe Shogun just got robbed... That is the very worst feeling in the world."
- BJ Penn (via Facebook)
"Did Shogun win? yeah."
- Rampage Jackson (via his website)
"Shogun getting robbed like that was pretty cut throat"
- Jon Jones (via Twitter)
"Watched it again this morning and still just saying wow. I guess the next guy might just need to bring a sword"
- Ben Henderson (via Twitter)
"To me that was a bad decision. Rua was more active and the aggressor."
- Kit Cope (via Twitter)
"What?!?! That was the worst robbery I have seen in the UFC ever!!!"
- Jake Shields (via Twitter)
"Even though Shogun should have won that fight!"
- Miguel Torres (via Twitter)
"Shogun is back. Very impressed, Muay Thai 1, Karate 0."
- Cameron Dollar? (via Twitter)
"Man the ufc judging tonight was garbage"
- Jay Silva (via Twitter)
"Ufc 104 was okay rua won the fight but u all know u gotta bit the camp 2 be a champ, but wht about the rampage fight hmmmm"
- Matt Brown (via Twitter)
"Shogun def robbed, but after a 2nd watch it was closer than I thought at first. I gave Machida rd 1 & MAYBE rd 3. Just my two cents..."
- Tiki Ghosn (via Twitter)
"Karate doesn't work against Muay Thai"
- Frank Shamrock (via Twitter)
"Shogun won that fight"
- Antonio Silva
- Vitor Belfort (TATAME.com)
"UFC judges aren’t good to judge. To beat the champion, you only have to win, it doesn’t matter how."
- Rickson Gracie (according to Shogun)
- Randy Couture
"Shogun won 4 rounds."
- Wanderlei Silva (training partner)
"he [Machida] did not do enough to win the fight"
- Rashad Evans (MMA Live)
- Marcus Jones (MMA Live)
- Dave Meltzer
- Tito Ortiz (MMA Connected)
"I gave 4 of 1 rounds to Shogun as well."

Pro fighters who thought Machida won:

- Josh Thomson (via Twitter)
"Watch the dam fight again. Machida won 3rnds an shogun won the last 2."
- Anderson Silva (Machida's best friend)
"Lyoto won every round." (TATAME.com inteview)
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ExitLUPin said:
Context doesnt seem to matter to Grease Saint Pierre fans.

Bet u havent even seen the Spratt fight lol

Hendricks fight is still one of the biggest robberies in MMA history BTW
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No doubt Hendricks won that fight.
Robbery
 
Hendricks destroyed GSP, GSP run away with a paper belt.

No GOAT would do that.
 
Another fun fact, MMAmath doesnt work.
 
ExitLUPin said:
It was man. You can revise history all u want but its one of the worst decisions ever. The outrage was unprecedented and practically everyone had it Shogoon
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So because an innebriated audience, Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg the fight was a robbery? It was a close win for Shogun at best because of the 10 point must system. I actually rewatched the fight not that long ago and it was alot closer then I remembered it.
I'll tell you what, if I'm not to tired from work tommorrow I'll rewatch it again and tell you what rounds I think could have gone to Machida.

edit: I did have GSP beating Hendricks 3-2 though. If I remember correctly it comes down to round 1 right? GSP had the takedown, submission atempt and was pushing the action while Hendricks had a couple good elbows.
 
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