Here is why cutting Okami is straight up stupid

How do you think the original rules and judging criteria came about? The UFC. If they want changes they can lobby the commissions for them. I've heard them attempt to get knees to downed opponents but I've never heard them push for anything to change the scoring system for takedowns and control.

Sorry, but you are just wrong.

The UFC was represented as were various other promotions, promoters, and other key players in the MMA world (I think John McCarthy was involved and I feel like I heard that Bas and or one of the Shamrocks and other big shot fighters from the early days were involved)

On April 3, 2001, the NJSACB held a meeting to discuss the regulation of mixed martial arts events. This meeting attempted to unify the myriad of rules and regulations which have been utilized by the different mixed martial arts organizations. At this meeting, the proposed uniform rules were agreed upon by the NJSACB, several other regulatory bodies, numerous promoters of mixed martial arts events and other interested parties in attendance. At the conclusion of the meeting, all parties in attendance were able to agree upon a uniform set of rules to govern the sport of mixed martial arts.[2]
The rules adopted by the NJSACB have become the de facto standard set of rules for professional mixed martial arts across North America.
 
Sorry, but you are just wrong.

The UFC was represented as were various other promotions, promoters, and other key players in the MMA world (I think John McCarthy was involved and I feel like I heard that Bas and or one of the Shamrocks and other big shot fighters from the early days were involved)

On April 3, 2001, the NJSACB held a meeting to discuss the regulation of mixed martial arts events. This meeting attempted to unify the myriad of rules and regulations which have been utilized by the different mixed martial arts organizations. At this meeting, the proposed uniform rules were agreed upon by the NJSACB, several other regulatory bodies, numerous promoters of mixed martial arts events and other interested parties in attendance. At the conclusion of the meeting, all parties in attendance were able to agree upon a uniform set of rules to govern the sport of mixed martial arts.[2]
The rules adopted by the NJSACB have become the de facto standard set of rules for professional mixed martial arts across North America.

Sorry, but you are just wrong. The UFC existed before 2001 believe it or not. John McCarthy and Joe Silva created the rules, policies, and procedures that got mma sanctioned after the McCain era. The rules created then are essentially the same with minor adjustments from the meeting you speak of.

The athletic commissions did not insist on scoring lay n pray as winning rounds etc. The athletic commissions cared about illegal strikes and violence.
 
Im GLAD Okami's gone. His fights are more boring than watching paint dry. I hope they release Carmont too.

I didn't like their fights either, I don't think I ever sat through a whole fight of either of those two but cutting Okami was just wrong. Dana keeps talking about how he wants MMA to be real sport but with stuff like this it will never happen.

You don't cut top 5 people, it's just make the sport look silly.
 
Journeyman is a pretty strong description for a fighter like Okami.

He's always been ridiculously underpaid and just recently got a new decent contract after 7 years in the UFC (80 some grand if memory serves me right). Guess the UFC felt he was more worth their time when he was working for peanuts so decided to "send him back to China or whatever". You got to love the UFC business model.

Okami makes 42K to Show and 42K to win. That is less Show Money than Chris Leben (who has lost the last 4 out of 5 fights, and has looked terrible in the last three- failed multiple drug tests to boot). Okami is a top ten MW, won three of his last 4 fights, and after one loss to a beast of a MW in Jacare- gets cut (SMH). Okami was underpaid for being a top ten MW the last several years. Lombard (who Okami beat) gets 300K to Show. Other MW's with worse record than Okami, make more money than him and have their jobs with worse records than Okami. Bullshit cut by Dana.
 
Sorry, but you are just wrong. The UFC existed before 2001 believe it or not. John McCarthy and Joe Silva created the rules, policies, and procedures that got mma sanctioned after the McCain era. The rules created then are essentially the same with minor adjustments from the meeting you speak of.

The athletic commissions did not insist on scoring lay n pray as winning rounds etc. The athletic commissions cared about illegal strikes and violence.

If you want to take a hard stance on committing to being wrong I won't stand in your way. UFC was one representative at a meeting where rules were made.
 
Given his recent record and the guys that he's lost to, its very surprising that he was cut.
 
If you want to take a hard stance on committing to being wrong I won't stand in your way. UFC was one representative at a meeting where rules were made.

The UFC already had virtually the same rules approved in California. The UFC brought those rules to New Jersey in the first place. They were written Big John and Joe Silva. What don't you understand?

The unified rules meeting was just a way for the athletic commissions to adopt the UFC's suggestions.
 
This might end up being a good thing for Okami. Bellator or WSOF will take him in all likelihood, and he could easily become champ in either of those organizations. Him going beast mode in those orgs would be as good a 'fuck you' as any.
 
Actually, for most of his UFC career Anderson was considered to be boring as hell. He was the least marketable UFC champion and his PPV's sold considerably less than any other champ. Are you new to the sport or have you seriously forgotten all the main events where he was boo'd by the crowd and where Dana APOLOGIZED afterwards for the boring main event(s) due to Anderson's unwillingness to fight and rather dance and prance for 5 rounds?

So Anderson knocked out almost everyone of his UFC opponents and had 2 boring fights so hes considered boring...

I don't think so.. Anderson was koing guys left and right when he entered UFC, no one thought he was boring...

Yet okami has never pulled a fan outta their seat in his entire UFC career..
 
And yeah, for those who don't know yet, he was cut, along with Mike Ricci.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html

Okami is a specialist, obviously if you put him against a well rounded guy like Souza he will be creamed, Okami might have wrestling that is a little better, but not better enough to control Jacare on the ground. Okami is basically like a slightly bigger Jake Shields, a journeyman with heart and slightly good at everything.

If you're going to cut Okami after ONE LOSS, it is only fair to cut all the other journeymen who probably aren't good enough to ever be champs but can still put on a show and or dominate when applicable. Cut Nate Diaz, cut Shields, cut Sonnen, cut Te Huna, cut Josh Thomson, cut Meisha Tate while you're at it.

I mean really, I can think of 20 or 30 guys currently in the UFC doing worse, or with just a worse skillset than Okami. Dumb move and totally unwarranted.

I agree that they shouldn't have cut Okami. But nearly everyone that you suggested cutting are very exciting fighters with a high finishing rate (with the exception of Shields). Some complain that Sonnen isn't an exciting fighter, but he brings a lot of excitement & intrigue to his fights, not only with his antics, but with his ability to dominate & nullify his opponents' strengths. Miesha Tate is ALWAYS in a good fight & brings it every time she's out there. Not to mention how ridiculous it would be to cut someone scheduled for a title shot in the middle of coaching the most recent TUF season. That's an embarrassingly dumb suggestion. Diaz, Thomson & Te Huna are guys who come to finish & are generally in barn burners every time out. None of them should be cut. All of them are more exciting to watch than Okami.

You made a good point about the UFC cutting Okami, but then gave one of the worst supporting arguments (as far as examples are concerned) that I've ever read on Sherdog. Okami should not have been cut. But I doubt that he was cut because he's one of the worst fighters on the roster. He was probably cut because they UFC feels that they have reached their ceiling with him financially & competitively. Keeping Okami around adds little revenue & also causes a problem when Okami continues to pick off any exciting fringe contender that may add some new excitement to the division. It's business. It sucks sometimes & may seem a bit unfair, but it's a part of the game.
 
Jab fests and grapple fucks are not fun to watch when the guy performing them is devoid of any real excitement, At least Georges won a belt and had some good fights before playing it safe.

He'll be back, they were likely over paying for him and he is no longer the token Asian.

if they buy 2-3 exciting guys for what they were paying him I don't have a problem with it...
 
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