Here is why cutting Okami is straight up stupid

Okami isn't marketable. White has already made it clear he no longer tolerates fighters who aren't exciting. And Okami didn't even have the success of Fitch, who was higher ranked when he was cut. Rankings and record don't matter if you're not exciting. Boring fighters waste UFC money.

Who ultimately decides what counts as exciting and what doesn't though? There are lots of paying casual fans out there who consider everything that is not a dogfight brawl boring. Should Dana just cut every wrestler and ground specialist altogether and make the UFC an unskilled version of K-1, to please the casual fans and make the most money?
 
Who ultimately decides what counts as exciting and what doesn't though? There are lots of paying casual fans out there who consider everything that is not a dogfight brawl boring. Should Dana just cut every wrestler and ground specialist altogether and make the UFC an unskilled version of K-1, to please the casual fans and make the most money?
I should imagine that Dana has a pretty good idea of which fighters are more marketable and exciting.
UFC is sports entertainment first and foremost. If people don't like watching a particular fighter because they are boring, it doesn't surprise me one bit that this particular fighter is cut.
 
Who ultimately decides what counts as exciting and what doesn't though? There are lots of paying casual fans out there who consider everything that is not a dogfight brawl boring. Should Dana just cut every wrestler and ground specialist altogether and make the UFC an unskilled version of K-1, to please the casual fans and make the most money?

Well the thing is Anderson Silva counts as what is exciting. I mean is there a person on Earth who would possibly say "Okami is a more exciting fighter than Anderson Silva?" So it really doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand what is deemed "exciting" and what isn't.

Regardless I liked Okami.. Sure he wasn't that exciting but he was a tough fight for any guy in the division. I like fighters like that.
 
Belcher and Lombard....I think Dana cant ris more guys get beat by Okami. The thing is he would more than likely beat Bisping as well.

lol Okami would wreck Bisping and surprise a few top fighters as well. People think everyone Amderson beat are cans, they don't realize that Anderson is a freak of nature...an abomination.

Dana has no real understanding of MMA. He simply uses a like system to determine who stays and who goes. I can still remember a few years back when Werdum was cut after being knocked out by a newcomer named JDS. Dana had no clue that JDS was one of the hardest punchers in MMA and Werdum was one of the best BJJ practitioners in the world. That fight could have easily gone the other way with Werdum submitting JDS and JDS being cut from the UFC.

Dana White is not a good judge of talent or character. As long as he leads the UFC it will never reach its full potential and fighters will continue to be treated unfairly. I truly understand now why Fedor wanted no part of Dana White.
 
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Well the thing is Anderson Silva counts as what is exciting. I mean is there a person on Earth who would possibly say "Okami is a more exciting fighter than Anderson Silva?" So it really doesn't take a brain surgeon to understand what is deemed "exciting" and what isn't.

Regardless I liked Okami.. Sure he wasn't that exciting but he was a tough fight for any guy in the division. I like fighters like that.

Actually, for most of his UFC career Anderson was considered to be boring as hell. He was the least marketable UFC champion and his PPV's sold considerably less than any other champ. Are you new to the sport or have you seriously forgotten all the main events where he was boo'd by the crowd and where Dana APOLOGIZED afterwards for the boring main event(s) due to Anderson's unwillingness to fight and rather dance and prance for 5 rounds?
 
lol at people saying Dana doesn't see talent and everything else, Dana is the reason MMA is what it is today, as much as people hate that and hate dana the facts are If he didn't see value in MMA and the UFC Zuffa never buys it, and then The fights and promoting that they did is why it blew up. Facts are Facts get over it. Dana said that Okami was a great fighter and he didn't want to cut him but they got people coming in that could potentially be the next big thing, Now I agree there's a cpl other guys in the ufc that should of got cut before Okami(like Sakara) but at least now Okami gets to go to Bellator and win a title so I mean its only going to help his pocketbook in the long run.
 
Who ultimately decides what counts as exciting and what doesn't though?

In this case, the correct answer would be the market/ticket/PPV buyers.

I think economists would say that "excitement" is the degree of satisfaction consumers get from watching the fights, which they rank higher on their preference list than the ticket's/PPV's worth in money or some other good.

But fuck that. All this cuts lately, and now Okami, make one think... Where's honor in all this?
 
And yeah, for those who don't know yet, he was cut, along with Mike Ricci.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mma-c...-okami-tuf-16-runner-mike-000903036--mma.html

Okami is a specialist, obviously if you put him against a well rounded guy like Souza he will be creamed, Okami might have wrestling that is a little better, but not better enough to control Jacare on the ground. Okami is basically like a slightly bigger Jake Shields, a journeyman with heart and slightly good at everything.

If you're going to cut Okami after ONE LOSS, it is only fair to cut all the other journeymen who probably aren't good enough to ever be champs but can still put on a show and or dominate when applicable. Cut Nate Diaz, cut Shields, cut Sonnen, cut Te Huna, cut Josh Thomson, cut Meisha Tate while you're at it.

I mean really, I can think of 20 or 30 guys currently in the UFC doing worse, or with just a worse skillset than Okami. Dumb move and totally unwarranted.

TS, your right, but its alarming how many people here believe Okami getting cut is a good thing, lots of uneducated mma fans here, just alot of die hard just bleed retards, Okami is.a speciliast just like TS said,and a awesome one @ that, Im sure Yushin will become a champ in a smaller org. Just a shame Zuffa cuts legit contenders now. I guess they got to save $ one way or another
 
Cut Nam Phan, and bring back Okami.

TS, your right, but its alarming how many people here believe Okami getting cut is a good thing, lots of uneducated mma fans here, just alot of die hard just bleed retards, Okami is.a speciliast just like TS said,and a awesome one @ that, Im sure Yushin will become a champ in a smaller org. Just a shame Zuffa cuts legit contenders now. I guess they got to save $ one way or another

They are all Zuffa apologists.
 
Actually, for most of his UFC career Anderson was considered to be boring as hell. He was the least marketable UFC champion and his PPV's sold considerably less than any other champ. Are you new to the sport or have you seriously forgotten all the main events where he was boo'd by the crowd and where Dana APOLOGIZED afterwards for the boring main event(s) due to Anderson's unwillingness to fight and rather dance and prance for 5 rounds?

I still think his antics against Maia were some of the most entertaining moments in MMA history. Lol

The Lion King had to amuse himself somehow that night!
 
Hopefully Vince McMahon buys this farce of a company so we can see how a sports-entertainment organization is supposed to be run.
 
I never really cared about any of his fights except when he fought Silva and Jacare, cuz I knew he was looking to get crushed.

He's got awesome skills no doubt, but he's just so damn boring. To act like he got cut cuz he derailed Lombard is silly though.

Boetsch derailed Lombard. After that fight, I knew he couldn't beat Okami either.

He's headed to WSOF no doubt. Not even Bellator will want this guy dry humping their 185ers. Its lame.
 
JUST BLEED, brother!

Lol. Its not about spinning shit and flying back elbow drops my man, though I get how it may have come across that way.

Two guys can roll in the cage for 15 or 25 minutes and still have an epic battle.

Just not if one of them is Okami, IMO.
 
Okami had his chance in the UFC. Most fighters don't get to spend the downside of their career in the cage unless they are a former champ or a HUGE draw and Okami is neither.

He can be a big fish in a small pond at Bellator or WSOF rather than being an overpriced gate keeper in the UFC. Sorry if that is harsh, I like Okami, but that is just the nature of the beast. If you remove emotions from the situation this is not that big of a deal and not unprecedented in any way, it is just how it goes.

He is 3-3 in his recent fights and the most exciting moments in his last few years are when he got knocked out.
 
We can only hope that in 10-15 years from now the UFC and MMA has evolved into a legitimate sport, we still have a long way to go despite the popularity growth.
 
We can only hope that in 10-15 years from now the UFC and MMA has evolved into a legitimate sport, we still have a long way to go despite the popularity growth.

What does cutting athletes have to do with a sports legitimacy? It happens constantly in every sport.
 
I can't stand watching Okami fight, but if he can win within the rules (like Fitch) then he deserves to stick around.

If the UFC doesn't want lay n pray then change the judging criteria. Don't invent a set of rules and judging criteria and then beg fighters to not utilize those rules when they are boring.
 
I can't stand watching Okami fight, but if he can win within the rules (like Fitch) then he deserves to stick around.

If the UFC doesn't want lay n pray then change the judging criteria. Don't invent a set of rules and judging criteria and then beg fighters to not utilize those rules when they are boring.

UFC doesn't make the rules or judging criteria.
 
UFC doesn't make the rules or judging criteria.

How do you think the original rules and judging criteria came about? The UFC. If they want changes they can lobby the commissions for them. I've heard them attempt to get knees to downed opponents but I've never heard them push for anything to change the scoring system for takedowns and control.
 
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