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International Here comes another war to Afghanistan

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by 12ga., Sep 23, 2021.

  1. 12ga. Gold Belt

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    As I predicted chump Masood Jr isnt half the man his father was and resistance wilted quickly in Panjshir and he fled the country. the real threat to the Taliban is from ISIS. (no trump didnt defeat them) Over the last two weeks, every day, there has been IED attacks and machine gun ambushes on Taliban forces killed hundreds. Foreign fighters and disaffected Talibans simply say Taliban is not Muslim enough and it's on.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16213616/isisk-taliban-afghanistan-war/


    But what is the death cult's ultimate goal in Afghanistan and why are some hardliners in the Taliban believed to be "switching sides"?

    Experts say that ISIS-K - or Islamic State Khorasan Province - see the Taliban as "moderates" who allow girls to be educated and even hold talks with non-Muslim western countries.

    Dr Rakib Ehsan, research fellow at the Henry Jackson Society, says the group is recruiting jihadis from across south and Central Asia who are "disillusioned" with the new regime in Afghanistan.

    He told The Sun Online: "ISIS-K are a different form of animal from the Taliban.

    "Their ultimate goal is establish a global islamic caliphate while the Taliban are solely focused on implementing sharia law in Afghanistan.


    "ISIS-K believes the Taliban is a reformist movement which betrays Islam and they are swooping up disillusioned who share this view.

    "The Islamic State is focused on the destruction of western civilisation."

    There are around 2,200 members of ISIS-K in Afghanistan with the overwhelming majority living in Nangahar province in the east of the mountainous country.

    They are a group primarily made up of former members of the Afghan Taliban, Pakistani Taliban, and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), says Dr Ehsan.

    Asked whether ISIS-K could defeat the 75,000-strong Taliban and takeover Afghanistan, expert is in no doubt about the outcome.

    He said: "It's highly unlikely that ISIS-K would win.

    "I think the Taliban would destroy them. If you look at how easily they defeated the US-trained Afghan National Security Forces - they have a lot of very experienced generals."

    However, the Taliban's new "moderate" approach is also created unrest within its own ranks.

    Factions have formed between supporters of Deputy PM Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, who held talks with the US, and interior minister Sirajuddin Haqqani - whose network carried out several horrific terror attacks over the past two decades.

    Rahmatullah Nabil, a former Afghani spy chief, says that many Taliban extremists are unhappy with the new reforms made under Baradar including allowing women to attend school and work.

    He told The Times these fanatics within the Taliban could switch sides and join ISIS-K.

    The ex-spy chief said: “Many regional militant groups — Uzbeks, Tajiks, Uyghurs and Turkmen in Afghanistan and central Asia — do not see a point in following the Taliban any more and will seek to join ISKP.

    "Even the Taliban fighters who are more extreme, especially in the east, do not accept the Taliban’s authority and will very likely switch to ISKP.”

    The Taliban has dismissed the threat of ISIS-K claiming that the vastly-outnumbered terror group is widely "hated" by the Afghan population.

    Spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said: "Daesh [Islamic State] is not a threat, because the thought of Daesh is a hated thought among the people.

    “No one supports them. Second, our combat against Daesh was effective in the past and we know how to neutralise their techniques.”

    But with bomb attacks becoming more frequent, experts believe the assaults could turn some of the public against the Taliban if the new regime is unable to protect them.

    Franz Marty, of the Swiss Institute for Global Affairs, said: “It’s impacting people’s perceptions.

    "If the Taliban can’t make good on their promise on securing the country, that could turn the tide of public sentiment against them in the east.”
     
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  2. Staph infection Glue historian

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    It is time to let the Middle East sort itself out.
     
  3. Get To Da Choppa Black Belt

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  4. Oceanmachine Tidwell belt Banned

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    I really doubt the US will go back in

    That bridge is burned

    US will go into some other country. Likely Venezuela
     
  5. Cole train Gold Belt

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    At this rate afg will fight every nation race and group of people in the world.

    If aliens ever land watch them land in afghanistan
     
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    ^^^did not read article^^^
     
  7. K1levelgrappler Red Belt

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    This is why it’s genuinely good that the Taliban has all that US hardware.
     
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  9. Yehudim Brown Belt

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    The division among the Taliban and the idea that Afghanistan is far from stabilized is something I tried to explain to people but ultimately could not bring the facts to the table as the division had not yet started.

    People on both sides of the aisle really think that Afghanistan is stabilized now and that they will become a Chinese mine but fighting each other is in their DNA and any actual Islamist worth their salt (which is what the Taliban claim to be) would disagree with the Pakistani idea of purging Uyghur’s and kowtowing to China.
     
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    Is that how we're justifying another invasion this time?
     
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  12. 12ga. Gold Belt

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    In guerilla warfare hardware limits you. Affecting visibility maneuverability, plants targets to attack and instills a bunker mentality rather than a war in the shadows. Best thing Taliban could do is ditch the MRAPS and get on the ground with the people again.
     
  13. 12ga. Gold Belt

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    I think it's how we justify supporting Taliban. Stay Tuned.
     
  14. Mr Holmes You talking money, need a hearing aid

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    Is it time to start arming the Taliban?
     
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    NHI: No Humans Involved.

    Let the Talban and Special-K slaughter each other. The West's response should be limited to getting the beer and popcorn in and enjoying the show.

    If we're really lucky, the Chinese will get caught in the crossfire.
     
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  16. Yehudim Brown Belt

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    We already did. Maybe I’ve been consume some fake news but isn’t it the greatest arms transfer in history or something? Granted we broke a lot of the shit before they could get it
     
  17. EndlessCritic Steel Belt

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    Taliban is too moderate lol.
     
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    As OP says, the Taliban will crush them. ISIS has little appeal among the general population, no tribal support, and is vastly outnumbered. The Taliban has also no rules of engagement holding them back.
     
  19. Mr Holmes You talking money, need a hearing aid

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    I'm pretty sure McCain holds the title for biggest arms dealer in world history.
     
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    Maybe it's time to stop picking sides
     

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