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Herb Dean made a huge mistake and if you blame Bisping you're as dumb as a door

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by TonyAlvein, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. aali14 Silver Belt

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    Anderson really was going all out after he saw Bisping drop his mouth piece, a flying knee isn't a strike you just throw at random, he knew Bisping was distracted and would not counter with a punch or anything at the time, low risk high reward move. Yes he is a bit of a dirty fighter.
     
  2. WhiteMousse Black Belt

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    No. Bisping made a very, very bad decision.

    He does this a lot. He will converse with the ref if he thinks something is unfair. He's done it during his fights with Vitor, Luke, and now Silva. It's not even something in passing- he will turn to him, giving him his full attention. That's one of the poorest choices you can make in the middle of a fight. There were less than 3 seconds on the clock when he turned to Herb. If he'd kept his wits he might not have been aced.
     
  3. scarface94 The Ghost

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    And end the fight because that fighter just stopped the fight.

    Okay, Anderson won.

    ^ No. That's not how it works. Bisping messed up, he said so himself even.
     
  4. MRDOG Brown Belt

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    Bisping should thank Herb Dean for not ruling it a KO. Although it was the right decision another ref might of not seen it that way. Bisping just should of kept fighting. The round was almost over. The action never stopped. There was space created before the knee that landed but that is only because Anderson had the clinch and missed with his first knee. Causing the space. He never stopped attacking. He threw another knee right afterwards. The Knee that landed. 100 % Bispings fault.

    http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/bisping-should-thank-herb-dean.3183621/
     
  5. TonyAlvein The heir of the Dragon

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    He's dumb as a door if he said it. Probably his brain is not the same anymore after that knee
     
  6. Fanu Black Belt

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    Fight is stopped/paused when the ref says its stopped - until then, fight goes on as normal

    there were numerous fights were fighters had their mouthpieces out - in most, refs wont immediately pause the fight for the fighter to insert his mouth piece back
    refs will first wait at least a few seconds until the action stops or stales for long enough (big john mcarthy likes to do this often) - some do not even notice that fighters have their mouth piece out (since fighters dont even complain of the fact)

    this was the case in this fight - you may call it dirty or whatever, but anderson silva did not break any rules
    bisping was complaining, put his guard down and got his head caved in - that will teach him not to try to argue with a judge in a middle of a fight and to defend himself at ALL TIMES (as he was explained to by the ref, in the locker room before the fight)
     
  7. Stan Black Belt

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    Their's no doubt Herb Dean sucks as a ref but the first thing you are taught in any combat sport is to protect yourself at all times. Bisping didn't do that and Silva did what he was supposed to do. Herb never called for time or stepped in between the fighter to give Bisping his mouthpiece back. To call Silva a dirty fighter is just plain stupid as Herb never stopped the action and Bisping should never had taken his eyes off Silva.
     
  8. Tony121 Orange Belt

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    Protect yourself at all times, first thing you learn in any gym in the world.
     
  9. jeff7b9 Silver Belt

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    Actually.... Nope.

    You are just making shit up.

    There are no timeouts in MMA and Bisping begging Herb Dean to save his ass is not a legit maneuver in a fight.

    Furthermore judges are given the ability to stop the fight at their discretion during a break in the action only... There was no break in action, Bisping was clearly in danger the whole time.

    And most importantly there was no stoppage.

    How is this hard for people to grasp?
     
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  10. TonyAlvein The heir of the Dragon

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    I'll say it again, then:

    Kick the guy's nuts and keep punching him. When he complains, "Hey dude, protect yourself at all times"
     
  11. Gonzaginator Brown Belt

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    Why is it that the vast majority of people that registered here after 2012 or 2013 seem "slow"? Get out, n00bs.
     
  12. TonyAlvein The heir of the Dragon

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    Why should I cry? Bisping won, justice was served
     
  13. HHJ The Way the Truth and the Life of MMA

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    "can conor beat anthony johnson?"

    "anderson coulda won he just didnt seem interested to win"

    "this guy is cutting weight to cheat by beating up smaller guys"

    "roids,cheater,asterisk"

    "this guy has terrible fight iq,i should know,im a sherdog poster"
     
  14. MadHouse Red Belt

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    its true that Bisping shouldn't have dropped his guard but in typical fashion refs almost always stop fights immediately to return a fighter's mouth guard just look at the fucking holm\ronda fight as of late ffs

    second thing is its not like both men was blitzing each other from the moment the mouth piece was dropped there was ample opportunity to pause the fight for a second Silva only moved in when Bisping dropped his guard
     
  15. TonyAlvein The heir of the Dragon

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    I'm so happy when someone here has some sense of reality. Thank you, sir
     
  16. AWilder Black Belt

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    The typical sherdog post "opinion: if you don't agree with my opinion you are dumb". Great post 10/10 would read again
     
  17. LilMountain Section 20 Operative

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    Actually you're just both wrong
     
  18. jeff7b9 Silver Belt

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    It amazes me when people are proud of not knowing the rules...
     
  19. TonyAlvein The heir of the Dragon

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    I'm not that kind of guy. In this case, however, it's hard to think about it other way and not realize that you have no touch with reality if you believe that Bisping was threatened by a guy 2 meters away from him and believe that Herb didn't have time to pull the stoppage and give Bisping his mouthpiece.

    You're welcome to convince me otherwise, tho. Convince everyone that it was impossible to Herb to stop the fight the moment they split away from the clinch.
     
  20. TonyAlvein The heir of the Dragon

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    You have no touch with reality if you believe that Bisping was threatened by a guy 2 meters away from him and believe that Herb didn't have time to pull the stoppage and give Bisping his mouthpiece.
    You're welcome to convince me otherwise, tho. Convince everyone that it was impossible to Herb to stop the fight the moment they split away from the clinch. [2]
     

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