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Help-getting wrist locked while getting armbarred

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by TexDeuce, Oct 27, 2005.

  1. TexDeuce

    TexDeuce Blue Belt

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    Ok was rolling with one of my partners and was in his guard when he started to get an armbar on my left arm. I stood up to stack him and I grabbed my left wrist with my right hand to prevent my arm from getting 'barred.

    I wasn't in to much danger and was pulling out of it when he just puts his hands on my wrist and starts pushing it straight down into a wristlock. It didn't hurt to bad but enough for me to tap to prevent injury. I went the next day with him, and he got an armbar on me from him being in the mount. I grabbed my wrist again to prevent the bar, when he wristlocked me again. I was pretty pissed to get tapped by a damn wristlock that took no effort other than to just push my wrist down.

    My question---------how do I prevent this? I'm a blue belt but have never been wristlocked before and am really unfamiliar with them. If someone could tell me how to prevent this that would be great. Thanks.
     
  2. Soulfly

    Soulfly Guest

    I believe this method is shown in Mike Swain's Complete Judo tapes as a way to straighten the arm out. It's illegal to do a straight wrist lock in competition because it's small joint manipulation, and the move itself is supposed to make you stop struggling to fight the bar. Your best bet is to prevent the armbar by moving your body and turning, instead of brute strength.
     
  3. hamoom

    hamoom Purple Belt

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    wrist locks are legal in competition, just not at white and blue belt i believe.

    to answer your question, dont defend the armbar that way
     
  4. VampireMonk

    VampireMonk Black Belt

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    i believe the grip your using exposes your wrist.

    until lately you probably never even needed to have awareness there.

    you got to hide your wrists man.
     
  5. thecas

    thecas Blue Belt

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    At that point u think it is possible to peel of the fingers of his sole hand holding ya wrist, ayt the same time still pulling 2 get out of the armbar?
     
  6. tequilaman

    tequilaman Guest

    Ball you hand into a tight fist, like a punch, when you are going for the escape.

    If you keep your wrist too limp, it leaves you open for the wrist lock, and if you get wrist locked it hurts, then you concentrate on that and forget about the arm bar. Then all of the sudden you find yourself in an arm bar.
     
  7. Steeltwo

    Steeltwo Green Belt

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    was going to say this. The onyl way I can stop someone from getting a wrist lock on when they are trying a armbar or kimura is by doing that.
     
  8. Stoic1

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    In BJJ and subwrestling the wristlock is legal. It is also one of many legitimate moves to make you release your grip so they can get the armlock. The defenses for it are just like any other submission, don't get put in it. If you start to feel the wristlock you are going to need to switch to a different defense. Using the lion killer grip to defend against the armlock is much better than hand-to-hand defense. At least using the lion killer grip you won't get hit with the wristlock,
     
  9. Foolkiller

    Foolkiller You have meddled with the primal forces of nature!

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    Defend the armbar using proper technique.
     
  10. VampireMonk

    VampireMonk Black Belt

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    I like to defend the armbar by doing a grip like the
    one where your standing arms crossed all confident.
    that hides your wrist.
     
  11. Cynic

    Cynic Shugendo

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    It is quite amusing how some time ago people did not believe in wristlocks at all, thankfully people like Garcia proved them doubters wrong, anyone else noticed?
     
  12. TexDeuce

    TexDeuce Blue Belt

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    So what would be the proper way to defend the armbar as a last ditch effort? Obviously not to get there is the answer, but I am talking about when shit has hit the fan and the only thing saving your arm is you holding it with your other hand. What is the lion killer grip? Is it when you hook your hand in between your forearm and bicep? As for making a fist, that sounds like a good idea.
     
  13. Steeltwo

    Steeltwo Green Belt

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    anyone who has rolled with a tradional jiu jitsu person understands that wrist locks are VERY effective.

    my instructor is a bb in tjj

    and when we are rolling for self defense and not judo. You've got to watch EVERYTHING. He's really good at doing thumb submissions.
     
  14. colinm

    colinm Brown Belt

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    its not exactly last ditch when you're holding your arm. its last ditch when its being extended, and you can try to pull a hitchhiker escape. if i have time to grab my own arm, i will use an arm triangle grip as someone already said.
     
  15. Half Boston Crab

    Half Boston Crab Purple Belt

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    Use another grip.
    Like a closed three finger grip or a "grab fingers with fingers". You can also use a bicep grab, like when you make a RNC and use your free hand to grab his leg that's across your neck.
     
  16. randomg1t

    randomg1t EVERYTIME CHAMPION

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    i got caught into that too. its just a part of the game, no reason to get upset about it.

    when you're on your back and his legs are cross your face and body with him going for the armbar, you're pretty much fucked anyway.
     

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