1. The official Sherdog Store is back! Check it out! » Discuss it here! »

Heavyweight division's moves

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Geniusss, Jun 17, 2021.

  1. Geniusss Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2019
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    852
    So looking at it

    [​IMG]

    #2 is gonna fight the Champ
    #3 is gonna fight #5
    #4 is gonna fight #6
    #1 just lost the belt

    I think Jones gotta get in the mix and right now it makes a lot of sense to make that fight Miocic vs Jones as a title eliminator while Leiws challenges Ngannou, the winner gets next title shot, if Jones doesn't wanna fight no big deal, then the winner of Gane vs Volkov is next in line.

    What do you guys think? What should be the next moves at the HW divison?
     
    TARTARA and Qays Stetkevich like this.
  2. Raymundo Alvarado Guevara Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2020
    Messages:
    1,934
    Likes Received:
    1,027
  3. sadoquera Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2009
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    108
    Location:
    Atibaia
    miocic is kind of past his prime, but absolutely technical fighter. he has a chin on, great wrestling, one punch ko power. i dont see a reason to put jones to fighting him and riskinghim to lose his aura, and losing the chance to make a huge ppv number in putting him to fight for the belt straight away.
     
  4. mooseman17 Red Belt

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2009
    Messages:
    7,728
    Likes Received:
    1,369
    Did not realize Gane and Volkov were fighitng next and also in basically a week. Should be awesome one and likely determine the next contender.
     
    Jozo Sha and Ares Black like this.
  5. MikeChandler Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2021
    Messages:
    696
    Likes Received:
    1,018
    we cannot talk about

    Jon, GSP, Nick, Colby

    until an announcement is made

    <JackieThumbsUp>
     
    Rvd Slmr likes this.
  6. Filthy casual Cobalt belt

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2021
    Messages:
    500
    Likes Received:
    646
    Came in expecting to see some gems like these from DC.



     

    Attached Files:

    Last edited: Jun 17, 2021
    Evangelion likes this.
  7. Slatersan Black Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2014
    Messages:
    7,197
    Likes Received:
    15,474
    It actually feels like those 7 are the only ones in the HW division.
     
    Fight Professor likes this.
  8. Geniusss Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2019
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    852
    Do you think they should put him after Lewis?
    Or do you think Lewis is a big risk to Ngannou and they should put Jones before Lewis?
     
  9. sadoquera Yellow Belt

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2009
    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    108
    Location:
    Atibaia
    its kind of difficult to tell, but i think the best card with more ppvs numbers would be a undefeated jones against a champion francis. so, if i were dana, i would pay whatever to have it now.

    and heavyweight is really hard to predict. Lewis deserves the fight, he has the best record at the moment, and he can beat francis.
    miocic is also so good that he can defeat jones. so, the biggest fight possible could be over. or even worse, jones and francis can put boring perfomances and the fight doesnt have the attention needed.
     
  10. TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle Brown Belt

    Joined:
    May 14, 2017
    Messages:
    4,352
    Likes Received:
    1,675
    HW is getting a little better finally. All the dinosaurs have been driven away now and most of the top guys are young(ish) and in their primes. Gane/Volkov is a pretty legit fight, both are athletic, skilled HWs.
     
    Geniusss likes this.
  11. D'z Me against 40 of you?...A fair fight! -Big L Yellow Card

    Joined:
    Aug 10, 2016
    Messages:
    6,336
    Likes Received:
    4,265
    Location:
    Humboldt County by way of Philadelphia
    Until Jones is relevant again, he's simply not relevant. We can stop making "what if" threads about him now.o_O
     
    Jozo Sha likes this.
  12. ChristianZilla Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2014
    Messages:
    371
    Likes Received:
    286
    Location:
    United States of America
    I agree Jones needs to jump in and fight Stipe. That will be a good fight to gauge him at HW. If Jones/Stipe gets signed, that means the top 8 HWs are all scheduled to fight each other. That's cool to see.
     
    Geniusss likes this.
  13. RustyShacleford Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2010
    Messages:
    1,178
    Likes Received:
    818
    I seriously doubt Jones will take anything other than a title fight for a big payday, and the only thing stopping the ufc from giving him one is the pay dispute. Winning a contender fight won't give him any promotional advantage that he doesn't already have, but losing one would destroy his best promotional asset, being undefeated.

    Ufc has been selling ppv's well recently, so clearly they don't feel the need to pay Jones enough to make a big event happen, and Jones is doing the smart thing of waiting them out. Within two years they'll probably be struggling again to make an event that can do 1 mil+ ppv buys, and then they'll have to meet his price. It worked for GSP with the Bisping negotiation.

    Personally, I would love to see Jones at heavyweight, but the division doesn't need it. HW is looking as good as it has since Cain, JDS, Verdum, and Overeem were all in top form, and unlike then it's not suffering from constant cancelations.
     
    Last edited: Jun 22, 2021
    Geniusss likes this.
  14. MCS Tech

    Joined:
    Jul 4, 2008
    Messages:
    25,402
    Likes Received:
    2,208
    Location:
    Schilling's Parking Lot
    Stipe's been fine waiting. They'll likely eventually get the Ngannou/Lewis fight done. Stipe fights the winner. If Gane beats Volkov he's probably getting a title eliminator. That could also be Stipe. Jones is basically retired.
     
  15. KAZSoliloquy Steel Belt

    Joined:
    May 8, 2011
    Messages:
    30,876
    Likes Received:
    4,084
    cyril gane is seriously #3? this division is bleak.
     
  16. VulcanNervPinch Gold Belt

    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2009
    Messages:
    16,237
    Likes Received:
    918
    Yeah, Jones only wants a top visibility title fight.

    He knows his HW days will probably begin and end with the same fight and he wants as much money and as good an excuse as possible when that time comes.
     
    RustyShacleford likes this.
  17. Geniusss Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2019
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    852
    That makes sense and yes I understand the fight that would sell the most would be Ngannou vs Jones
    Also Lewis and Miocic are huge risks for those two.

    But if you think about it, Jones beating Miocic would be a huge thing and would show people that he's a legit hight level heavyweight and he actually has a chance against Francis. And Lewis is pretty much the only heavyweight Ngannou hasn't murked yet.

    So I think Ngannou and Jones beating those guys would be a huge thing and would get waaayy more attention for the potential Ngannou vs Jones
     
  18. Yrat Purple Belt

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2005
    Messages:
    2,289
    Likes Received:
    189
    Miocic vs Rozenstriuk would somehow makes sense at this point
     
  19. Geniusss Green Belt

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2019
    Messages:
    1,105
    Likes Received:
    852
  20. Virtually Identical Orange Belt

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2020
    Messages:
    438
    Likes Received:
    419
    I’m with you on this one, as one of the biggest Jones fans on the forum, I think it’s a mistake not going for the stipe fight, it’s a good first fight at heavyweight. Former 2x champ, helps the legacy and gives him some rounds in his new division. And quite honestly, it gives him a chance for the belt to get taken off Francis. I know he’d much rather fight Lewis than Francis, while also getting a big time legendary win on his record. It’s a no brained for me at this point
     
    Geniusss likes this.

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.