Haven't tapped anyone yet...

[Altephor]

No, this is not a 'OMG I haven't tapped anyone I quit' type thread.

I've been training for 2 months, so I don't expect to be tapping left and right. But I was thinking of maybe competing a little in no-gi and was wondering with only 2 months and never having actually submitted anyone should I even bother? I know NAGA has divisions like novice but I have a feeling I'd probably get my ass handed to me even then. If the comps were free I wouldn't care but to pay money to enter just to be a first rounder doesn't really appeal to me, especially having to drive to them from CT.

 

[keusegg**]

for only two months you probably don't know enough to go in there just yet.
most of the time when you are competing when you are just a 'beginner' you are competing against people with 2 years of experience of less.
keep training and focus on the steps to get to your goal of competing instead of rushing into your goal.
Most of the time against skilled opponents, you won't even get the sub - people know the defences all too well and can power out easily, so a lot of people just focus on points... so I wouldnt be too concerned with not being able to sub if you can hold positions well and score points.

a lot of people from my gym have went into competitions, got subbed in under a minute and never returned to train ever again... it can be very dissapointing.

how arent you subbing people? just bad submissions, get caught in a certain position, or what?

I have been training for about 4 or 5 months 5 days a week and I can go weeks never submitting anyone, its not that big of a deal, I just count the points in my head and find my victories that way.

 

[Arguemaniac]

thats not uncommon, don't sweat it, in fact, you should focus more on defending submissions at this point; ignore how many people you tap out, work on getting tapped less...

 

[Mikey Triangles]

It'll be a good experience for you as long as you enter with an open mind.

BTW you don't need to submit the guy to win

 

[TheBigS]

It'll be a good experience for you as long as you enter with an open mind.

BTW you don't need to submit the guy to win

This is right. It could be a great learning experience. Who cares if you lose? Working on techniques that you do know (even if there aren't that many of them) in an environment that is very competitive (like a big tournament) will help you gain valuable mat time early in your martial arts career and also give you more confidence in every other tourney.

 

[Jiu Jitsuka]

for only two months you probably don't know enough to go in there just yet.
most of the time when you are competing when you are just a 'beginner' you are competing against people with 2 years of experience of less.
keep training and focus on the steps to get to your goal of competing instead of rushing into your goal.
Most of the time against skilled opponents, you won't even get the sub - people know the defences all too well and can power out easily, so a lot of people just focus on points... so I wouldnt be too concerned with not being able to sub if you can hold positions well and score points.

a lot of people from my gym have went into competitions, got subbed in under a minute and never returned to train ever again... it can be very dissapointing.

how arent you subbing people? just bad submissions, get caught in a certain position, or what?

I have been training for about 4 or 5 months 5 days a week and I can go weeks never submitting anyone, its not that big of a deal, I just count the points in my head and find my victories that way.

I thought you were pwnd all other other white belts? At least that is what you said in another thread?

 

[RubberRyan]

novice naga has a crap load of sandbaggers

 

[keusegg**]

I thought you were pwnd all other other white belts? At least that is what you said in another thread?

i said it to see if anyone would freak out and obviously you did.
same way i said "weeks without subbing' so that he can not feel bad not being able to sub but usually its one random day where i don't get a sub, usually because everyone is so sweaty and slimey that i can't keep grip.
so congrats.
and i don't get subbed and might get a sub off is what i meant by it.
my stand up is excellent Im just now getting into my ground so get off me.

 

[Prokofievian]

Go into the tournament. It'd be a great experience just being around all the grapplers who are at the level that you're setting for yourself. It'd also be great to just go NUTS against someone and see if you could really do something against a live opponent who really really wants to take you out.

All around, it could be an awesome experience.

 

[beatenup]

u should compete to guage just where exactly you are in terms of skill

 

[TheGambler13]

1) You learn by getting your ass beat, it's just the way it is
2) Learn to defend subs, and get position...(you can win this way)
3) Compete anyway, it's more practice, and its fun!

 

[P10o10]

u should compete to guage just where exactly you are in terms of skill

All he knows is that his opponent has a certain amount of experience, not his actual skill level. Being 2 months in and getting tapped by some unknown guy tells him nothing about his skill level.

But not having tapped anyone at all at his club probably indicates that his skill level isn't that high. I actually did my first competition 2-3 months in and although I went in with some confidence, I got choked out pretty quickly. Looking back at the match I think I would've done a lot better at my current skill level; another few months has improved my game dramatically.

Still, I think you should compete. If nothing else, you'll gain some respect at your club for being willing to compete that early. Also, you'll avoid the trap of training for a year or something before your first tourney, going in there with high expectations and then have them crushed by the next BJ Penn in your first match.

 

[johil d'o]

Skip the competition at this point. You're too new to get much out of it. Just MHO.

 

[torubu]

I'd go to it, just to get used to the environment, and get over the nervousness you'll find when you can actually stand a chance. You might not learn much skill wise, but the experience is extremely valuable.

 

[tri4ben]

I would go to watch for your first one.

Also, don't consider a tap to be teh victory. If yuo can pass someone's guard, or get back guard from mount or side control, those are victories in themselves.

 

[hayliks]

you probably shouldn't be tapping anybody for at least 6 months, even newbies

 

[Dick]

BJJ is not for you lol.

 

[Dick]

you probably shouldn't be tapping anybody for at least 6 months, even newbies

Lol what? No way... I competed and placed with only 3 months training, i tapped someone on my first day training. And I've seen lots of guys tap other newbies withing their first few classes.

 

[Jiu Jitsuka]

i said it to see if anyone would freak out and obviously you did.
same way i said "weeks without subbing' so that he can not feel bad not being able to sub but usually its one random day where i don't get a sub, usually because everyone is so sweaty and slimey that i can't keep grip.
so congrats.
and i don't get subbed and might get a sub off is what i meant by it.
my stand up is excellent Im just now getting into my ground so get off me.

Sounds like you're the man cool guy. Good to hear you're dominating everyone but not dominating everyone at the same time. Looks like you enjoy to talk from both sides of your mouth. Hear is the post I'm referencing:

Haha ive been training 5 days a week since january, dominate every whitebelt plus whitebelt with 2-3 stripes and still have not recieved my second stripe.But yes if you feel like tapping then do so, its just training its not a fight but make sure you have thought it out and exhausted every escape you can think of (keeping in mind the correct way to break a grip around a belt or gi).

You must be a master of psychology with your amazing skills to manipulate people to "freak out". You sure seem to stay alot and nothing at the same time. Good luck with that buddy.

 

[torubu]

Lol what? No way... I competed and placed with only 3 months training, i tapped someone on my first day training. And I've seen lots of guys tap other newbies withing their first few classes.

Agreed.. I mean, there's always someone you can tap in your first 6 months. I won't even go over my day today because I feel like I went too hard on somebody (He was 14 at the most and I'm 20, so I had far too much of a size and strength advantage) and even though I only had one week down and he had a stripe on his white, he couldn't break my guard because my legs were too long, and I could sweep from say, him in my halfguard to a complete roll back into the original position with one swing. I let him start in any position he wanted, even on my back with virtually the RNC locked in.. but it just wasn't fair. I actually feel bad that I took so much of an advantage of the size and weight in training but I guess that's a sign of my inexperience.