Has there ever been an in-the-guard gnp fighter better than ortiz?

[blazerkor]

You just said a bunch of stuff that happened after the eye poke moron

Nothing at all happened in round 5. So how did he crush him. I was right you didn't see fight.

Oh and getting out struck 2 to 1 in significant strikes and over 3 to 1 in total strikes and getting controlled in the clinch for 3/4 of the round is something happening... so yeah in R5, a round that DC's corner said he had to stop Jon, DC got his ass kicked. You go and re-watch the fight because I've done so 5 times now in the past week.

 

[TheComputerGuy]

I'm a moron? You think that the whole fight hinged on an eye poke that DC barely took time for, showed no ill effects after the fight or any during the fight. He was not taking extra shots to his left side, his upper left eyelid or brow wasn't bruised during or after the fight. His eye was closed when the poke happened. It had absolutely no baring on the outcome. Jones won round one, was winning and continued to win round three, and then stomped DC into oblivion rounds four and five. None of that shit had anything to do with an inadvertent eye poke that DC showed zero effects from taking. You are seriously the only person that thinks this eye poke was fight changing.

Jones lost round 2 and was losing round 3 until the eye poke.

 

[blazerkor]

Jones lost round 2 and was losing round 3 until the eye poke.

The idea that Jones lost two round is absurd but I will say that the early part of R3 was close even though I had it going Jones' way... the eye poke had nothing to do with the outcome. We didn't see DC blinking it over and over again. We didn't see Jones exploiting it by landing more shots to DCs left side... it was a non factor. Jones obviously won, he did so clearly in 4 out of the 5 rounds so just get over it.

If you are hoping that a lack of an eye poke will get DC to victory Saturday... good luck with that. All DC's fans have is hopes that Jones is worse than the first time and excuses for how bad Jones beat DC the first time.

 

[MuyThaiElbows]

In his early days GSP had some scary GnP. Jones and Cain have some of today's most vicious GnP imo.

Tito was the king of GnP tho.