Has Ilia surpassed Khabib already?

[BigOlJeet]

Threads like this should really hammer home how dumb you had to be to have Khabib in your top 10. Neither are.

Impressive talents don’t mean you’re top 10 all time without the resume and accomplishments to back it up.

And you’re a known Conor cock gobbler you think Conor is a GOAT higher than Jones, GSP, Anderson etc. stffu let the grownups talk.

 

[Rubios]

Not yet.

 

[BowserJr]

He has at least 10 more fights to go for that

 

[666]

Yea, Khabib said in his retirement speech 'put me P4P number one.'

Topuria just took it.

 

[Streeter]

Illa big 3 wins were more impressive and better as a whole. But at best Illa ia tied he needs 2 more big wins to separate.

 

[aali14]

Conor, Dustin and Gaethje is basically Khabib's whole resume..... well a win over Volk, Max and Oliviera trumps all that easily

And Topuria won all his fights convincingly, Khabib lost to Tibau

Yes Topuria has surpassed Khabib

And to those commenting how Topuria being compared to Khabib is somehow a testament to how great Khabib is, well it actually shows that Khabib is a tier BELOW the real P4P greats, GSP, Jones, etc, No one is saying Topuria surpassed GSP, that would be a joke, but you can make a solid argument Topuria surpassed Khabib, showing Khabib's legacy is good but not top 3 P4P Goat material

 

[r-harper-1]

That's a tough one I say 1 more defense and illa is past him all time. Already passed Islam though

So Topuria gets one more and passes Khabib ….what happens if Topuria loses his next 3 ? Does Khabib pass him back

 

[r-harper-1]

MMA fans are fickle as fuck

 

[RockyLockridge]

So Topuria gets one more and passes Khabib ….what happens if Topuria loses his next 3 ? Does Khabib pass him back

Nope, with one more illa will have as many title wins as khabib with titles in 2 weight classes while being undefeated in his career and having defenses in multiple classes.

even if illa lost his next year after winning his next, I'd still have him ahead

 

[Subline]

Volk is HOF.
Max is HOF.
Oliveira is HOF.

Gaethje isn't HOF.
Poirier isn't HOF.
Connor is HOF.

It doesn't matter if they were ''1-2, 2-1, 38-21'' the time that they fought. You have to look at their career as a whole. It's not even close IMO.

Only HOF that Khabib has beat is Connor.

Do you really think in 10-20 years people gonna look at the record and say ''Oh yeah but when Illia beat him he was 2-3 in his last 5'' ? lol.

Same mindset people used to justify Jones vs Stipe btw.

 

[Rubios]

Depending on how much value you put in the 2 division belts.

Maybe. Not for me (yet). It's getting close.

 

[r-harper-1]

 

[wrb]

Wow, did not realize how many canceled fights Khabib has on the record. Not all are his fault and I cannot imagine Tony would of done anything but he has WAY more than I realized. Damn Khabib, 2 weight cut issues ! I guess teams are better now, right?

 

[helltoupee]

Every time a new hype train arrives the same ol story lol

Be patient guys, its to early, we've been here before

EXACTLY! +1000

It's the same story every single time. One guy knocks out another guy who literally is on queer street in almost every single one of his fights, and now it's "nobody can take da left" all over again, and we've got people theorizing that ilia is going to be knocking out welterweights and middleweights, and submitting Islam with one armed tied behind his back.

 

[BForrester]

If Ilia retired at this minute, I think his past 3 fights are more impressive than Khabib’s run.. no disrespect, both are legendary.. but the caliber of opponent and the way he has done it.. Ilia is more impressive IMO

He beat three guys in their mid-late 30s that have tons of mileage on the odometer. Olivera and Volk are 35 and 36, respectively. I'll be surprised if those two are .500 fighters from this point forward.

 

[helltoupee]

Nate Diaz beat the shit out of Conor in under 2 rounds. Its simply not an important win. Khabib getting a dominant decision over RDA in his prime is a really quality win. Otherwise his strength of schedule is unimpressive and he rarely fought.

Topuria TORCHING Volk, Max and Charles in a row is the single most impressive win sequence by quality arguably in the history of MMA.

He does this on the back of an undefeated career and now holds two belts. I don't even see how Khabib is in the discussion here.

For as much as I didn't like Conor, you are delusional if you think Nate Diaz "beat the shit out of McGregor".

Conor simply gassed. He didn't get the shit beat out of him. And no, I'm not, and never was, a Conor fan.

 

[mooseman17]

I think it’s close, I’d give the slight edge to Ilia based on quality of wins. But Ilia needs a fight of Khabib v Conor magnitude to make him a superstar among the casuals. Sucks that we will likely never see him vs Islam.

 

[rjmbrd]

For as much as I didn't like Conor, you are delusional if you think Nate Diaz "beat the shit out of McGregor".

Conor simply gassed. He didn't get the shit beat out of him. And no, I'm not, and never was, a Conor fan.

The first round was a marginal 10-9, and nobody got hurt.

The second round Conor landed his best punches and clocked Nate multiple times. It was unequivocally his biggest moments in the fight. He got groomed for a 1-2 (Nate does this 2x before landing it cleanly) and walked right into it.

He wasn't gassed, there wasn't any grappling, it was literally a kickboxing fight. He had absolutely no idea what to do when he landed his left and the other guy didn't fall over. Nate proceeded to beat that absolute shit out of him.

Nate fought a lot of ranked guys, championship caliber guys. They all SMOKED Nate. Beat him up in lopsided whoopings. Conor couldn't last two rounds with him.

 

[FlowchartRog]

The first round was a marginal 10-9, and nobody got hurt.

The second round Conor landed his best punches and clocked Nate multiple times. It was unequivocally his biggest moments in the fight. He got groomed for a 1-2 (Nate does this 2x before landing it cleanly) and walked right into it.

He wasn't gassed, there wasn't any grappling, it was literally a kickboxing fight. He had absolutely no idea what to do when he landed his left and the other guy didn't fall over. Nate proceeded to beat that absolute shit out of him.

Nate fought a lot of ranked guys, championship caliber guys. They all SMOKED Nate. Beat him up in lopsided whoopings. Conor couldn't last two rounds with him.

This. How the fuck could you watch that fight and think Pillowfists McGregory "simply gassed".

Sure if getting hit with a clean 1-2 is "gassed". He didn't look gassed before that. Then lo and behold, he gets blasted with a clean left cross, and immediately starts panic wrestling and "gassing".

 

[USA!USA!]

EXACTLY! +1000

It's the same story every single time. One guy knocks out another guy who literally is on queer street in almost every single one of his fights, and now it's "nobody can take da left" all over again, and we've got people theorizing that ilia is going to be knocking out welterweights and middleweights, and submitting Islam with one armed tied behind his back.

OK what about knocking out Max who has literally never been KOd before?