Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Sam's UFC title reign, Nov 25, 2021.
definitely he has.
Everyone is saying Conor's washed up, it's like one of you guys say's it and everyone repeats it, like a bunch of children. Conor is in his prime, you have no concrete evidence that Conor is washed up. Maybe Dustin is just that good, dumb ass.
so who is in the GOAT lightweight convo lol? Khabib Khabib Khabib Khabib & Khabib?
Lose twice while being clearly washed and ppl will say you were never good in the first place. And ppl wonder why guys like Cejudo and Khabib chose to retire in their primes. El Cucuy bless their bum souls.
Naaah, Conor is both overrated and washed up. I’m sorry that hurts your idol’s resume.
Lol Dustin is way ahead of Tony ….. Dustin has Much better resume
Tony is one of the most overrated fighters in the history of the sport imo( I was saying this when he was on his streak ) …. weight drained RDA is his best win by far
Glad someone else can see it. Tony’s stock is at an all time low while Poirer is peaking.
prime for prime it’s a banger, but Tony drowns him.
Doubtful …..Tony has the defence of a statue and would get pieced up by strikers far below Dustin’s level …..
Dustin absolutely has. So has Gaethje
So, by that logic Khabib only has 1 great win against Justin Gaetjhe. Khabib’s resume is worse than a Bellator fighter
Khabib rag dolled prime RDA, prime Gaethje, and prime Dustin. Still a hell of a resume even if you exclude Conor.
I don't think its really a question at this point.
If Dustin beats Charles and gets the undisputed belt, I think he moves into contention for that 3rd best LW of all-time spot. For me it's currently a toss-up between Eddie, Frankie, and Bendo. Dustin will be right there with them if he gets the belt.
Dustin has a lot of potential while Tony does not have much of a career left at least as a top fighter. But their accomplishments are not too far apart.
Prime Tony Ferguson was almost getting put away on short notice by Lando, a journeyman. He was almost getting finished by a lot of people.
He'd be lucky to survive three rounds against Prime Dustin.
Poirier has the quantity, but frankie has the quality. Those two wins over BJ were bigger than anything on poirier's record, and taking Maynard's 0 was huge, too. Sherk is also a former champ and arguably was in a better spot in his career than pettis or any of the other former champs on poirier's resume.
Poirier has lots of good wins, but he usually caught those guys right when they were coming off losses ala Conor, and gaethje, or after they already slipped a lot like pettis.
The timing on frankie's wins are just better, but like I said poirier does have the quantity.
An easy YES on that .... and I like Tony
So now Dustin is in the GOAT discussion? Make up your mind dude. RDA is 30-13 that’s not exactly prime anything to me. I feel like the Dustin win is questionable because everyone says that arena in Abu Dhabi was 130 F. Temps
The problem with your notable wins list is that Cerrone and Pettis were washed up when he fought them, and Dustin at least fought Pettis a little earlier. Kevin Lee was sick and basically gave up. RDA he was hardly beating until an eye poke seemingly changed the fight.
I do like that you put Thomson on there. You're right: he is underrated. Everyone forgets about him.
All of Dustin's wins on your list were either in their prime or very close to it, with the exception of Pettis.
McGregor wasn't ranked at Lightweight (based on FightMatrix) the first time Poirier fought him and in the rematch McGregor was only ranked #12 by then.
Gomi, Henderson, Alvarez, Penn, and Nurmagomedov all have more top ten ranked wins than both Poirier and Ferguson.
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