i know this goes in the supplement forum(sorry!!) but i posted this in there a week ago and no1 answered b/c so few ppl go into that forum. if anyone has any advice/experience/information on hot-rox or any other ephedra free fat burner please share with me! i want to cut down and am not too worried about losing stregth cuz im already pretty big. im not really overweight but i wanted to get "cut", and yes i have the genetics to do so b/c i used to have a 6-pack etc. before i went to college. if you have any other alternate advice please share. i already lift/run ALOT and i have given up pop and fast food. please help!