Has anyone ever spent time at an Indian Reservation?

Spinoza said:
I grew up on the rez. I'm not sure what riddleofsteeel is talking about, though. Non-native people are allowed to be on the reservation; you don't need to set up any tours or anything. I think he might be basing is statements solely on his experience with a particular subset of reservations (perhaps, only southern ones). If you do insist on going to the bars, I recommend you don't go around asking a bunch of stereotypical questions about what it's like to be native. Also, I would recommend staying away from most house parties (mainly, those with a younger crowd).

I see that you live in Chicago. Were there any reservations you had in mind? I'm from a reservation in northern Wisconsin, and I'm familiar with most Wisconsin reservations.
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thank you for the honest response. i have never gone to, nor do i know anyone who has ever gone to a reservation, nor do i know any native americans. This was just pure curiosity of a community i know nothing about.

I have heard rumors that you can't go there/you are not allowed there/they hate all white people. i dont take this on face value because in chicago, even in crappy neighborhoods there are nice people and good times to be had.

do you have any recommendations of any reservations to go to in wisconsin? which one has the reputation as the biggest partiers/nicest people?? I dont mind a bit of violence or crime in general as long as i am ALLOWED to be there. I dont want to piss off the tribe council or anything like that.


Cheers!
 
Toastytoy said:
thank you for the honest response. i have never gone to, nor do i know anyone who has ever gone to a reservation, nor do i know any native americans. This was just pure curiosity of a community i know nothing about.

I have heard rumors that you can't go there/you are not allowed there/they hate all white people. i dont take this on face value because in chicago, even in crappy neighborhoods there are nice people and good times to be had.

do you have any recommendations of any reservations to go to in wisconsin? which one has the reputation as the biggest partiers/nicest people?? I dont mind a bit of violence or crime in general as long as i am ALLOWED to be there. I dont want to piss off the tribe council or anything like that.


Cheers!
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Just use google maps and go dude, I cant believe you dont know where the nearest reservation is. Really?

There arent any rules but as a stranger its best not to make waves anywhere you go.

Tribal Council? Not to be worried about, its just a fancy word for city government i.e. the guys who write the checks to tribal cops.

I dont know what you expect to find, typical rural town except for the casinos and tourist destinations.

They are allowed to govern themselves so there may be some where strictly speaking you arent allowed but I would bet any amount of money that that isnt enforced anywhere.

Some ( a minority) ARE in fact dry (no booze) I heard about a guy running a convenience store just outside the reservation in Montana who was selling like 20k worth of booze a day...
 
so when you grew up on the rez what did you do to party? im having a hellofa time figuring this out.
 
When i was 19 i spend a few days with some friends on a Rez in Arizona. And the one thing i remember was feeling hated. As a white man i have never felt such hatred and resentment aimed toward me in that time. I haven't felt it since then either.
And i'm not stupid i understand the reasoning. But wow, it was almost a physical thing you could feel.
The quality of life was very low, the liquor cheap and nothing really around to do. This was before the casino boom so i don't know how it would be now, but that was my impression.
 
Toastytoy said:
thank you for the honest response. i have never gone to, nor do i know anyone who has ever gone to a reservation, nor do i know any native americans. This was just pure curiosity of a community i know nothing about.

I have heard rumors that you can't go there/you are not allowed there/they hate all white people. i dont take this on face value because in chicago, even in crappy neighborhoods there are nice people and good times to be had.

do you have any recommendations of any reservations to go to in wisconsin? which one has the reputation as the biggest partiers/nicest people?? I dont mind a bit of violence or crime in general as long as i am ALLOWED to be there. I dont want to piss off the tribe council or anything like that.


Cheers!
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I still don't believe you just woke up one morning and completely fucking randomly thought "Hey, i want to go by myself to party on an Indian reservation! Even though i'm a white guy, and probably have no business being there." Having absolutely zero knowledge of indian reservations. Seems too random to not be premeditated.

I'm sure someone told you you could score some easy Native American girls there or something. Please update and let us know how it went.
 
Spinoza said:
I grew up on the rez. I'm not sure what riddleofsteeel is talking about, though. Non-native people are allowed to be on the reservation; you don't need to set up any tours or anything. I think he might be basing is statements solely on his experience with a particular subset of reservations (perhaps, only southern ones). If you do insist on going to the bars, I recommend you don't go around asking a bunch of stereotypical questions about what it's like to be native. Also, I would recommend staying away from most house parties (mainly, those with a younger crowd).

I see that you live in Chicago. Were there any reservations you had in mind? I'm from a reservation in northern Wisconsin, and I'm familiar with most Wisconsin reservations.
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I'm just stating that reservations can setup their own rules on where non tribe members can and can't go on reservations. The southwest has some large reservations, hence the comment about wilderness permits.
 
Goodfoot said:
When i was 19 i spend a few days with some friends on a Rez in Arizona. And the one thing i remember was feeling hated. As a white man i have never felt such hatred and resentment aimed toward me in that time. I haven't felt it since then either.
And i'm not stupid i understand the reasoning. But wow, it was almost a physical thing you could feel.
The quality of life was very low, the liquor cheap and nothing really around to do. This was before the casino boom so i don't know how it would be now, but that was my impression.
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You must not have MSNBC, they hate whites 24/7
 
I went to Wampole Island with some friends to visit a friend and party.

At first it was cool. The people at the house showed us all the cool wood and bone carvings that they were planning to sell. We played basketball, smoked some weed and then started drinking.

Not an hour after the beer started to flow my friends car windows got smashed and he got punched out (all this for literally no reason whatsoever) and we had to hightail it out of there and drive back to Toronto with broken windows....in February.

I like to think I'm not racist or bigoted but...it's been 15 years since that happened and i've never had a beer with a Native person since.
 
LionExMachina said:
I went to Wampole Island with some friends to visit a friend and party.

At first it was cool. The people at the house showed us all the cool wood and bone carvings that they were planning to sell. We played basketball, smoked some weed and then started drinking.

Not an hour after the beer started to flow my friends car windows got smashed and he got punched out (all this for literally no reason whatsoever) and we had to hightail it out of there and drive back to Toronto with broken windows....in February.

I like to think I'm not racist or bigoted but...it's been 15 years since that happened and i've never had a beer with a Native person since.
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It's not racist. They can't handle liquor.
 
fightingrabbit said:
I still don't believe you just woke up one morning and completely fucking randomly thought "Hey, i want to go by myself to party on an Indian reservation! Even though i'm a white guy, and probably have no business being there." Having absolutely zero knowledge of indian reservations. Seems too random to not be premeditated.

I'm sure someone told you you could score some easy Native American girls there or something. Please update and let us know how it went.
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i understand where you are coming from, but that's what really happened. when this goes down i will make sure to update the thread and let everyone know what happened. i love to travel, and i have heard NOTHING about this topic ever. Its the same reason i would like to travel to belarus or kampala uganda, except a lot closer and no visas or malaria shots required
 
A lady selling frybread offered for me to marry her daughter (the daughter was hot but laughed) on an Apache rez. I was at. True story



Was there over Christmas vacation (a week+) with my buddy who married a native. I had a good time there. If you know someone who lives on one, that's the best way to have them take you around and experience everything (the ancient sites, etc.)

*Visited ancient hopi forts. They were there before the Apache/Navajos and then abanded the area for whatever reason.
*Saw Geronimo's actual hideout (it's a little closet space 40+ feet up the perpendicular sheer side of a cliff, it's amazing he could just climb up there, but he did whenever he was being looked for)
*Ancient super old cave-type drawings on rocks from 2k+ years ago. Still there just sitting on the side of the HWY
*Went to a band concert on New Years' where there was a giant crowd fight at the end. The rez police came to restore order (they were dressed in swat-type uniforms). Then I heard a gunshot outside- was told this is normal, except that nobody died this time like they usually do (usually 1 or 2 casualties).

Most people I met personally were very friendly. The only person who wasn't friendly was a drunk that approached me in the parking lot, asking for food money after I gave him a bag of food in response. He was not amused
 
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Reyesnuthugr said:
A lady selling frybread offered for me to marry her daughter (the daughter was hot but laughed) on an Apache rez. I was at. True story
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Frybread is good! I'll take it at the Pow-Wow though, no need to go on the Rez for it.
The daughters on the other hand.....well thats probably still worth the trip! :)
 
Goodfoot said:
Frybread is good! I'll take it at the Pow-Wow though, no need to go on the Rez for it.
The daughters on the other hand.....well thats probably still worth the trip! :)
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Frybread is the greatest invention known to man. After some are freshly fried, you can use them for taco shells and it's quite amazing (I believe they're called Navajo Tacos).

Getting your frybread WITH a marriage proposal (side order) for a hot young daughter standing there is clearly the way to go. The daughter was approx. 21-22 dressed modern, hip and swanky, looked like a model

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Never been to a Pow Wow yet. Maybe I'll have to see when I can go to one. Shouldn't be too hard.

REgarding this rez, I was at-- it was actually not trashy (besides the obligatory wild dogs and drunks hiking on the sides of the hwy that runs through it) and was actually well kept and comfy-ish. I wouldn't mind living there if I needed to. It was very nice and one of the best experiences I've ever had
 
Reyesnuthugr said:
Frybread is the greatest invention known to man. After some are freshly fried, you can use them for taco shells and it's quite amazing (I believe they're called Navajo Tacos).

Getting your frybread WITH a marriage proposal (side order) for a hot young daughter standing there is clearly the way to go. The daughter was approx. 21-22 dressed modern, hip and swanky, looked like a model

----

Never been to a Pow Wow yet. Maybe I'll have to see when I can go to one. Shouldn't be too hard.

REgarding this rez, I was at-- it was actually not trashy (besides the obligatory wild dogs and drunks hiking on the sides of the hwy that runs through it) and was actually well kept and comfy-ish. I wouldn't mind living there if I needed to. It was very nice and one of the best experiences I've ever had
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Yes they are called Navajo Tacos and yes they are awesome!
All i can speak on was my own experiences, and to some people maybe that's cliche' or something. But i've never been scowled out, stared at, shoulder bumped, had people talk under there breath to me, and been flat out told, i wasn't welcome in these parts because i'm white. Never happened before and hasn't happened after. My hosts were cool, but straight up told me not to go out too far without one of them around to speak for me espcially at night. The only buildings i remember seeing were the liquor store, the Rez police shack and trailers in various states of disrepair and there were one or two families that lived in literal dirt shacks.
For a lot of people the whole Indian forced on a Rez thing is just a few generations old and their grandparents were children when the US Army rounded them up. Fry Bread itself is a product of those times. Believe me i understand where they are coming from. At the time there were no casino deals and it was one of the poorest places i've seen.
 
Goodfoot said:
Yes they are called Navajo Tacos and yes they are awesome!
All i can speak on was my own experiences, and to some people maybe that's cliche' or something. But i've never been scowled out, stared at, shoulder bumped, had people talk under there breath to me, and been flat out told, i wasn't welcome in these parts because i'm white. Never happened before and hasn't happened after. My hosts were cool, but straight up told me not to go out too far without one of them around to speak for me espcially at night.
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Yeah I don't want to make it sound like a wonderland or anything. It definitely had that heavyish vibe to it that you describe. Only difference I guess was that I already expected that and the good things turned out to be a few notches more positive (and plentiful) than I could have anticipated.

This type of place is manageable if you're using common sense and being smart and polite, but you can feel how quickly things can go south if you mess up. It's not special rules for outsiders so much as no special rules for anyone-- everyone has to live under these understandings and no special allowances are to be had for f-ups or slip ups.

If I had gotten stabbed at any time I wasn't exactly going to be surprised


The only buildings i remember seeing were the liquor store, the Rez police shack and trailers in various states of disrepair and there were one or two families that lived in literal dirt shacks.
For a lot of people the whole Indian forced on a Rez thing is just a few generations old and their grandparents were children when the US Army rounded them up. Fry Bread itself is a product of those times. Believe me i understand where they are coming from. At the time there were no casino deals and it was one of the poorest places i've seen.
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I think there was an abandoned US army base (back when they rode horses) built on this one as well, so it had some extra funding put into the land and buildings, that's probably why it was nicer and more developed than is likely usual for reservations. This place had a big nice grocery store with anything you could want from a grocery store, and frybread stands (and packs of wandering dogs, a few drunks) out in the parking lot. The beverly hills of reservations (?) Still, I knew better than to walk out at night. There's a freaky heavy feeling that creeps up into the air once the sun starts setting

(*didn't know about frybread history. thanks!)
 
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