Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Bangkok ready d1, Feb 14, 2020.
What about the guys he lost to in his prime? lol
If he losthe wasnt in his prime, this is sherdog bro
Roy Jones Jr. respects Forrest Griffin’s hands, and Silva matrixed him.
There's not very many great strikers in MMA.
Back in Anderson's day there were even less.
He was in his prime from the time he went on his streak until the fight before Weidman.
This is a great point, prime Anderson definitely should have fought and beat good 15 years younger strikers from the future when he was champ.
MMA fans are the worst
Vitor was very good and very dangerous. He was KO-ing pretty much everyone he fought until he faced Anderson
Rich Franklin was considered a quite good striker for his era. Anderson made him look like an amateur...twice
Hendo was never the best technical striker, but had dynamite fists and was a very good fighter when he faced Anderson. He'd just given Rampage all he could handle for 5 rounds in a LHW title fight. And he'd beaten Vitor and Wand in Pride not too long before that. And he finished Fedor just a couple of years later
Nate "Ask Tyron Woodley if I'm a good striker" Marquadt
While Anderson fought a lot of grapplers, he definitely faced some quality strikers--certainly more than Chuck Liddell faced as a champ.
Silva fought in all the MW title fights from 2006-2016
So if you're saying there was never a good striker title fight at MW for an entire decade.
( that's fine though, just wanted to put it into perspective)
Nick Diaz isn't a good striker?
Sure - it was changed from a win to a NC because of Silva doping but still...
At 43 he fought the current champ Izzy and won a round.
Based on what? Beating a 38-year old Anderson who was starting to do well (defending Weidman's TDs) in the 2nd round of the 2nd fight before he gave in to clowning hubris?
Based on your logic, prime Mitrione > prime Fedor, too. Now see how many people will get triggered by that one.
Good boxer but not such a good striker
The UFC has historically been a wrestler heavy organization. How many top tier athletes with resumes to back it up have come and gone through the UFC? Not very many in fact. And how many of those "Good" strikers have joined the UFC when they weren't already washed up? A high level striker with an experienced background entering the UFC at a relatively young age is almost non existent bro. I mean bloody hell Israel left kickboxing with a knockout loss too and he's been in 80+ kickboxing fights.
If Israel is considered a high level striker by any standard and if Andersion Silva at 40+ years old who is on a steep decline can hold his own against Israel, I'd say Silva's striking is good and probably even better in his prime.
I think that's what they're saying.
Very few people have dominated a division for 5+ years. Fedor, GSP, Silva, Jones, DJ, Chuck, Wandy, Aldo, Cruz. I think that's it, I may be forgetting someone.
It's a really incredible feat. If it were easy, others would have.
But they naysayers have to come up with something to nitpick. If you've been here long enough, you know what the nitpick for each of those great fighters is. At this point, they're all cliche's.
TS is not clever or unique. He's just trollishly reiterating a cliche that's been around for a decade or more. And an equally valid (or invalid) cliche exists for every great fighter.
He's not looking for interesting conversation. But with 50+ replies, he succeeded in getting the attention he so desperately craves. He got what he wants.
I would consider Patrick Cote, vitor, Hendo, Nate Marquardt, and Rich Franklin all good strikers. Silva made them all look bad.
TS is Big John....
probably a bunch when he was a kickboxer
You made zero sense. How does one month your hero doing crazy things that the MMA world and especially Silva fans say he is in his prime doing matrix shit, then the other month gets Ko'd? Then loses again but 2 flukes out of 2 fights? Come on thats like winning the lotto twice in a row. Mitrione was Fedor's first legit loss to a clean fighter. He went 17 years without losing fairly. Silva and Gsp didn't.
Fedor has never been under anything close to USADA testing. He had zero testing in Pride and Scott Coker orgs (Strikeforce and Bellator) aren't much different. Overroid, Bigfoot, Barnett and Werdum all tested clean in SF then got busted in the UFC. So that's not the least bit relevant. For all we know, Fedor may have juiced to the gills for most of his career
Anderson still had pretty good speed and reflexes in his late 30s, but he was by no means in his "prime." He was able to matrix guys like Okami and Bonnar but Weidman was young and good enough to catch him...especially when Anderson just basically gave him a clean shot at his face which was dumb.
Any more softballs or logical fallacies?
You asked a question and got your answer, you didn't like the answer so you then changed the question? Not sure what you're trying to get at here but evidently he's one of the best if not the best striker to do it.
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