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I made this thread in the standup forum but it s also something regarding strength so I thought I ll use your feedback as well guys.
I find it fascinating how the hardest punchers in history were all around the same weight of 210-220 pounds.
Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, Mike Tyson, Deontay Wilder.
The only guys that I know that are up there with the list above and are 220+ pounds are Vitali, Wladimir and Lennox Lewis. Maybe Anthony Joshua? All being 240-250 pounds.
That s pretty surprising, don t you think? Middleweights walk around 220 pounds in UFC for example and they are considered small and weak nowadays for the heavyweight division. Even in boxing, 220 pounds is considered small now, in fact you could argue that from the late 90s onwards, the boxers are bigger, badder and more powerful and that old atg punchers would not be comparable to the power that these guys are able to generate with their shots... A 240-250 pounds picture perfect punch should be significantly more powerful than a 210-220 pounds picture perfect punch...
But then comes Deontay Wilder, rises up the ranks and becomes the hardest puncher in the division today, clearly above all these 240+ pounds guys... While he is 210-220 pounds!!! Look at what the man can do with 1-2 shots in the 12th round to a very big guy like Tyson Fury...
So what is the explanation for this? Shouldn t 240-250 pounds hard punchers significantly punch harder than 210-220 pounds? Is 210-220 pounds the ideal weight for power generation? Then why are people of this weight nowadays considered small, weak and with low power for the heavyweight division in combat sports? Boxing, kickboxing, mma etc?
I find it fascinating how the hardest punchers in history were all around the same weight of 210-220 pounds.
Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, Mike Tyson, Deontay Wilder.
The only guys that I know that are up there with the list above and are 220+ pounds are Vitali, Wladimir and Lennox Lewis. Maybe Anthony Joshua? All being 240-250 pounds.
That s pretty surprising, don t you think? Middleweights walk around 220 pounds in UFC for example and they are considered small and weak nowadays for the heavyweight division. Even in boxing, 220 pounds is considered small now, in fact you could argue that from the late 90s onwards, the boxers are bigger, badder and more powerful and that old atg punchers would not be comparable to the power that these guys are able to generate with their shots... A 240-250 pounds picture perfect punch should be significantly more powerful than a 210-220 pounds picture perfect punch...
But then comes Deontay Wilder, rises up the ranks and becomes the hardest puncher in the division today, clearly above all these 240+ pounds guys... While he is 210-220 pounds!!! Look at what the man can do with 1-2 shots in the 12th round to a very big guy like Tyson Fury...
So what is the explanation for this? Shouldn t 240-250 pounds hard punchers significantly punch harder than 210-220 pounds? Is 210-220 pounds the ideal weight for power generation? Then why are people of this weight nowadays considered small, weak and with low power for the heavyweight division in combat sports? Boxing, kickboxing, mma etc?