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"Hard-Working American" Myth

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by MarcoW, May 11, 2014.

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    this is basically what I assume those numbers came from. nobody wants to be the guy working the long hours, but they sure want the same pay. God forbid they get the same standards though.
     
  2. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    The horse's job is certainly easier. It doesn't have to understand or do anything but it's immediate task. The farmer has to do all the planning plus he must understand the horse's job if he's to direct it.
     
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    How exactly is middle class defined? In my neck of the woods even the poor have flat screens and cell phones. They might be poor but their standards of living are very high historically speaking.
     
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    I would like to point out that I find nursing to be more physically taxing than my previous job building houses.

    But I earn 300% more money as a nurse, so, lol.
     
  5. MarcoW Bojacked Horsehungman

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    as a University graduate, that kind of work is not tiring at all.
    its relaxing. Sure it can be stressful with deadlines, but at least you can takes breaks when you want.

    You can't in labor, you are doing harder work.
     
  6. MarcoW Bojacked Horsehungman

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    hospitals don't seem to want to hire enough nurses here, I think the stats say something like 30% are suffering from burnout
     
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    There is a science to it. Wendy's for example, wants the burger placed on the bun in such a way that the corners are aligned properly in relation to the bread.
    It's not something anyone can do without proper training

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  8. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    That doesn't change how hard the task itself is.

    I'd even argue that LBJ's job is "harder" than Hawking's. Dribbling and dunking is easier, certainly. But doing it at LBJ's level is a task that very few people can accomplish. Hawking is incredibly smart but uniquely so?
     
  9. MarcoW Bojacked Horsehungman

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    a manual laborer is not a horse, and could undoubtedly do the job as a supervisor just as well (its incredibly easy as well)
    and lol at being easier. Harder work is harder.

    think about this, would you rather design a document or a building for 20$ an hour, or stand up lifting blocks for 20$ an hour, provided you were qualified to do both?

    I would no doubt choose the first option because it would be so much easier
     
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    This is true, four shit posts in a row let's you get to 15 per day really fast.
     
  11. The point is the difficulty of a task is different for each person. There's no objective answer to the question of what is easier, playing basketball or solving a math problems. It depends on who you ask.
     
  12. MarcoW Bojacked Horsehungman

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    are you honestly suggesting that Hawking isn't uniquely smart?
    he certainly isn't pedestrian.
     
  13. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Hmm, how long does it take to become qualified to do both?

    Because if you picked a random guy off the street and asked him to do either and that he would be punished for failing at either task, I suspect he'd take lifting blocks over potentially killing people every day of the week.

    I certainly wouldn't risk designing buildings for others without working significantly harder than I'd work lifting and moving blocks.
     
  14. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    He certainly is not pedestrian. That's a leap that I didn't make. LBJ isn't pedestrian either.
     
  15. panamaican Senior Moderator Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    I think there is an objective answer. Some people are more suited to specific tasks but that's about the people, not the task.
     
  16. KONG-D'SNT-TAP Banned Banned

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    I highly doubt either of u are at all successful...

    You 2 are like the donkeys that vote for Romney but barely clear 40K a year... "BBBBut one days I mights be rich too."
     
  17. MarcoW Bojacked Horsehungman

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    I get that one takes more education.
    that doesn't change the fact that it is by far easier labor than manual labor.

    What is work?
    work is technically a measure of joules, force times distance.
    In reality this is basically calories burned.

    So sure you burn calories thinking but not nearly as much as doing labor.
    In terms of physics manual labor is harder work.
     
  18. KONG-D'SNT-TAP Banned Banned

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    This post is filled with so much horse bunk it isn't even funny...

    Sitting in an office is a joke most of the time, even jobs like master plumbers and master carpenters are all harder than most lame office work.. and both a plumber and a carpenter require hard labor and a brain to do properly.. Well that is if you want your house to stay in order properly..

    God knows emails and phone calls are killer..


    Get over yourself.
     
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    Let the blue collar butt hurt flow through you.
     
  20. KONG-D'SNT-TAP Banned Banned

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    I grew up in a successful family who didn't teach me to spit on people who make less like u and Goat.

    I don't begrudge plumbers for wanting a higher salary like u 2 butt hurt donkeys who thinks the world owes them something but no one else anything..

    Your thinking and Goats is flawed beyond measure. First who is gonna do everything that is needed to be done on a daily basis if everyone sits in an office pushing pencils and Second, why does it make blue collar workers booze hounds or junkies..

    Its nonsensical..

    And lastly most blue collar workers I know who are all masters of their fields make well over what most donkeys in a suit make sitting in a cubicle all day long. Master electrician is easily a 100+K salary.
     

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