Sorry but your trying to put words into my mouth there with highly questionable semantics. When I say "genuinely anti-Semitic conspiracy theories" I mean just that, claims which I would both class as conspiracy theory and which I would class as anti-Semitic.
This is the chickenshit response - verbatim and all - I expected from a disingenuous weasel like you. I did not put words in your mouth in my comment that you quoted. I merely re-posted what you had written and asked you to elaborate on what you had meant by the term "genuine." Let's go over together what I wrote, shall we?
Hold up. Something feels off about that previous comment. I must have missed something there.
Genuine, huh? Care to tell us which anti-Semitic conspiracy theories you find to be genuine? I'm genuinely curious as to what you have to say.
I knew you were to going to show your true colors one day, you sanctimonious cunt.
And here's your comment that I quoted in my post with the same format that I used to emphasize the portion that I found to be very questionable:
I would argue though claims of anti-Semitism being used in a cynical fashion against those critical of very clear Israeli government immorality and western support of it has significantly devalued the term which has helped to make genuine anti-Semitic conspiracy theories easier to voice than at any point since WW2.
Whats helped as well of course is that most anti-Semitism still tends to come from the right and it can be whitewashed by offering some level of support for Israel and engaging in a bit of shared Islamophobia, Bibi is best buds with Victor Orban for example who loves a bit of the old conspiracy theory.
It doesn't take a genius to deduce from this comment that you personally believe there's validity to these anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. Fuck off with your semantic bullshit excuse. You did not write "genuinely anti-Semitic conspiracy theories." You wrote "genuine anti-Semitic conspiracy theories." The adjective, not the adverb.
Again I think you see far more of that coming from the right, both in the typical old "Jewish elite control the world " type(often centred around Soros these days) and actually when it comes to shifting from legitimate criticism of Israeli actions into linking them into such conspiracy theories, the last election especially we had several republicans openly pushing those kinds of lines.
I'd make the same point again, when you use claims of anti-semtism to try and discredit very legitimate criticism of Israeli actions(I don't think its at all conspiracy theory for example to say they've targeted the civilian population of Gaza) and US support for them(again very real in money and arms) I think you devalue the term and make it easier for this kind of stuff to thrive. I would point out again too that its very possible to be pro Israeli and be anti-Semitic, to believe that jewish people should "live in their own country" not as minorities in other countries and that those who do have some bad ulterior motive.
As far as the personal insults go I think you should look at what the mods have been saying recently.
Hogwash. The anti-Semitic conspiracy that Jews control the world and our finances is not held more by the far right. The far left are just as guilty of holding the same views. You and your ilk just happen to do a slightly better job at disguising them. I find your lame attempt at exonerating yourselves by solely pinning the blame on the far-right to be laughable at best.
Let me use an example that should be very familiar to you: Jeremy Corbyn, the far-left British Member of Parliament and a former Leader of the Opposition and former Leader of the Labour Party.
And let's see what this asshole thinks about the Jewish people:
In 2012, the artist
Mear One publicised on social media that his mural Freedom for Humanity, about exploitative bankers and industrialists, was being censored; Corbyn responded at the time by questioning the removal of the artwork, and then in 2018 was criticised by Jewish leaders for not recognising an antisemitic canard. In response to that criticism, Corbyn said he regretted that he "did not look more closely at the image", agreed it was antisemitic, and endorsed the decision to remove it. In 2020, the
Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) revealed that an antisemitism complaint had been made against Corbyn in April 2018 over his defence of the mural and that members of Corbyn's office "directly interfered in the decision not to investigate the case", an example of political interference which the EHRC concluded was "unlawful".
Corbyn was criticised for a 2013 speech in which he spoke of certain Zionists who had "berated" the Palestinian speaker at a meeting, "they don't want to study history and secondly having lived in this country for a very long time, probably all their lives, they don't understand English irony either" (used by the speaker). The remarks were criticised for appearing to perpetuate the antisemitic canard that Jews fail or refuse to integrate into wider society. Corbyn responded that he was using
Zionist "in the accurate political sense and not as a euphemism for Jewish people".
Jonathan Sacks, a former Chief Rabbi, described the remark as "the most offensive statement made by a senior British politician since
Enoch Powell's 1968 'rivers of blood' speech."
In 2019,
Corbyn was criticised for a foreword he wrote in 2011 for a republication of the 1902 book Imperialism: A Study by John A. Hobson, as the book contains the antisemitic assertion that finance was controlled "by men of a single and peculiar race, who have behind them many centuries of financial experience" who "are in a unique position to control the policy of nations". In his foreword, he called the book a "great tome" and "brilliant, and very controversial at the time". Corbyn responded that the language used to describe minorities in Hobson's work is "absolutely deplorable", but he stated that his foreword analysed "the process which led to the
first world war" which he saw as the subject of the book and not Hobson's language.
I know this is not news to you. I'm only posting it for the sake of argument and to expose your disingenuousness. Cut the horseshit, already. Like I mentioned earlier, you're the living embodiment of the Horseshoe Theory. You, a far-left tankie, are just as guilty of holding the same anti-Semitic views as the far-right.
But that's just a fraction of my indictment against your abhorrent post. Let me explain the entire context of the situation in chronological order to show what a pretentious, sanctimonious cunt you really are.
I called out a poster for posting blatantly anti-Semitic tropes that added zero value to this thread and a post from an Instagram account that has a history of posting content that promotes Nazi apologist propaganda and the oh-so-infamous and patently false anti-Semitic conspiracy theory that Jews control the world and our finances, which you erroneously claimed are held more by the far right in some chickenshit attempt to exculpate the anti-Semitic statements that preceded it (more on your anti-Semitic statements later).
I called him out, and you proceeded to give us a lecture (a hackneyed lecture commonly given by
genuine anti-Semites, no less) about how the term anti-Semitism has become devalued over the years due to the actions of Israel, and how such devaluation of the term led to "genuine anti-Semitic conspiracy theories" gaining more credence than at any point since World War II. Judging by your lack of condemnation of the poster and decision to post such statements, I can only assume that you had no issue with or perhaps implicitly endorse the comments made by said poster.
Now you're backtracking and claiming that you meant "
genuinely anti-Semitic conspiracy theories." What the fuck does that even mean?
"The devaluation of the term, anti-Semitism, has given more credence to the genuinely anti-Semitic conspiracy theories than at any point since World War II." As opposed to what?
Partially anti-Semitic conspiracy theories? That doesn't even make any sense at all. Can't it be automatically assumed that all conspiracy theories regarding Jewish supremacy are
genuinely anti-Semitic in nature? What's the point of attaching this redundant adverb to the term?
Bullshit.
Genuine was the word you exactly meant to use, and congratulations, now you've thoroughly exposed yourself as a bona fide - oh no, excuse me,
genuine - anti-Semite. Spare me the fucking garbage semantics excuse and gaslighting. I'm not here to engage in a debate about the English language; I'm here to call you out on your ridiculous comment and its inappropriate timing.
Have a nice fucking day, asshole.
