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[Snubnoze707]

What is the point of staging this anti Israel protest in front of the only Jewish bakery in the city? At the very least they are affecting the business/livelihood of this business. If the police were not there, what do you think would happen? Are police there just for the hell of it or is it because at least of the elements are potentially violent and could start smashing the cafe or attacking people inside?

It wasn't staged there and that wasn't a "Jewish Bakery" it was just a bakery. They were moving down the street when someone got in an altercation with one of the protestors. Nobody was trying to go inside and nobody was smashing anything.

What implication are we supposed to make from this? Is every Jew anywhere in the world complicit for the actions of the state of Israel?

Strawman. No Jews were being targeted in this incident. There was only focus on that bakery because an altercation just happened right in front of it with someone that had nothing to do with the bakery.

Why didn't they hold this demonstration or rally in the town square or downtown somewhere?

They did.

I think you're also downplaying how intimidating some of these protesters can be to an average person. Sure maybe if you're a decent sized man who trains BJJ or MMA they are a joke but for many regular people this can be overwhelming. Some of these assholes also hide their faces and act quite menacing (although I am sure you'll downplay it). In US they were blocking access and preventing certain people from walking through campus like at UCLA as an example. Just some silly shit. The nerdy looking white boy preventing a black guy with his daughter from walking through campus was perhaps one of the more cringey ones....

Has nothing to do with this incident.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Oh cool, check out Israeli's making Genocide a spectator sport. Even bring the kids along to watch buildings collapse and crush Palestinian children to death. Go Team!



This was from last year so not too much to watch now since everything is leveled already. Bummer...

It's amazing to hear people continue to make this about "Hamas" when Israeli's will repeatedly tell you they are taking Gaza to make it Jewish. Video after video of them saying this proudly. This couldn't be any more obviously Genocide.

 

[kflo]

Oh cool, check out Israeli's making Genocide a spectator sport. Even bring the kids along to watch buildings collapse and crush Palestinian children to death. Go Team!



This was from last year so not too much to watch now since everything is leveled already. Bummer...

It's amazing to hear people continue to make this about "Hamas" when Israeli's will repeatedly tell you they are taking Gaza to make it Jewish. Video after video of them saying this proudly. This couldn't be any more obviously Genocide.

Not surprising that you consistently pretend and try to push the idea that ultra orthodox and far right settler leaders represent Israel. Or maybe you’re that ignorant about Israel. Obviously I can’t rule that out.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Not surprising that you consistently pretend and try to push the idea that ultra orthodox and far right settler leaders represent Israel. Or maybe you’re that ignorant about Israel. Obviously I can’t rule that out.

The country is being ran by ultra orthodox and far right settler leaders, so yeah they are represented by them. Quite literally.

 

[kflo]

The country is being ran by ultra orthodox and far right settler leaders, so yeah they are represented by them. Quite literally.

You literally think that video you posted was representative of broader Israel. So I guess you ARE that ignorant. Makes sense of course.

 

[Snubnoze707]

You literally think that video you posted was representative of broader Israel. So I guess you ARE that ignorant. Makes sense of course.

You seriously think I'm hinging my claim on this one video? LOL....

 

[Anewt]

Photographer Fatima Hassona killed ahead of Cannes documentary debut

The Palestinian photojournalist Fatima Hassona, killed along with ten family members in an Israeli air strike on her home in northern Gaza, is the star of a documentary due to be screened at the Cannes film festival next month.

www.euronews.com

 

[kflo]

You seriously think I'm hinging my claim on this one video? LOL....

I seriously think you see videos like that and think they represent Israel and that’s what Israeli’s look like. Yes.

 

[Snubnoze707]

I seriously think you see videos like that and think they represent Israel and that’s what Israeli’s look like. Yes.

I mean I could just listen to it's leaders, what they say and they're actions to reach a clear conclusion about their intentions.

If you're trying to present that I'm saying the entire population has this desire, obviously citizens in every single country on the planet have diverse opinions so you're arguing a strawman there.

 

[kflo]

I mean I could just listen to it's leaders, what they say and they're actions to reach a clear conclusion about their intentions.

If you're trying to present that I'm saying the entire population has this desire, obviously citizens in every single country on the planet have diverse opinions so you're arguing a strawman there.

Yet you’d rather post old videos of ultra orthodox settler activists and pretend they are your average Israeli. Like you just did.

 

[evergreenrider]

Gosh these goyim and amulek need to learn their role.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Gosh these goyim and amulek need to learn their role.

Fucking hell, man. We've got another Jew hater here.

 

[evergreenrider]

Fucking hell, man. We've got another Jew hater here.

Naw I'm with you brother. Bring about the third temple. Wash the goyim away

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Naw I'm with you brother. Bring about the third temple. Wash the goyim away

I'm not Jewish. Your comment adds nothing of substance to this discussion. It was just a fucking dog whistle to project your anti-Semitism and nothing else. You're already on dubs. Keep it up, and you'll have to think of a new handle for another account.

 

[Snubnoze707]

Yet you’d rather post old videos of ultra orthodox settler activists and pretend they are your average Israeli. Like you just did.

The video isn't even old it's from 2024. You don't even accept direct quotes from Benjamin Miliekowsky and other Israeli officials when they are posted....

 

[kflo]

The video isn't even old it's from 2024. You don't even accept direct quotes from Benjamin Miliekowsky and other Israeli officials when they are posted....

No, it’s YOU who don’t accept direct quotes. You only accept the ones that suit your purpose. The other ones you dismiss as lies.

It’s from 2024. Why are you posting it TODAY? And why are you posting it today pretending they represent Israel?

 

[Snubnoze707]

No, it’s YOU who don’t accept direct quotes. You only accept the ones that suit your purpose. The other ones you dismiss as lies.

Wrong. You've been thoroughly destroyed by everyone on the topic of "propping up Hamas" so give it a rest and take the L.

It’s from 2024. Why are you posting it TODAY? And why are you posting it today pretending they represent Israel?

2024 isn't exactly ancient history you moron it was 4 months ago, and I made sure to specify that the video was from last year and not this week. I just saw that clip now, that's why I'm posting it.

I made zero claims about what kind of percentage or average of Israeli citizens agree with ethnically cleansing Gaza so yet again you are arguing a strawman because you don't have any good arguments otherwise.

I also find it funny that you are all up in arms about me posting something "old" and accurately describing what is in the video, yet I don't see you taking any issue with people posting fake outrage videos claiming people waving flags were trying to "lynch" bakery workers.

 

[evergreenrider]

I'm not Jewish. Your comment adds nothing of substance to this discussion. It was just a fucking dog whistle to project your anti-Semitism and nothing else. You're already on dubs. Keep it up, and you'll have to think of a new handle for another account.

 

[kflo]

Wrong. You've been thoroughly destroyed by everyone on the topic of "propping up Hamas" so give it a rest and take the L.

lol. Keep lying. That’s exactly where YOU continue to dismiss any comments that don’t match the narrative you want to push. You and your “everyone”. Hahaha. We know your other buddy.

2024 isn't exactly ancient history you moron it was 4 months ago, and I made sure to specify that the video was from last year and not this week. I just saw that clip now, that's why I'm posting it.

I made zero claims about what kind of percentage or average of Israeli citizens agree with ethnically cleansing Gaza so yet again you are arguing a strawman because you don't have any good arguments otherwise.

I also find it funny that you are all up in arms about me posting something "old" and accurately describing what is in the video, yet I don't see you taking any issue with people posting fake outrage videos claiming people waving flags were trying to "lynch" bakery workers.

You are such a shameful liar. This is exactly what you said:

“Israeli's will repeatedly tell you they are taking Gaza to make it Jewish. Video after video of them saying this proudly. This couldn't be any more obviously Genocide.”

They, them, you clearly are implicating all of Israel. You WANT to implicate ALL Israelis. You are actively TRYING to make others believe ultra orthodox settler activists represent Israel. That that is what Israel looks like. And again, you either know it’s a lie or you’re that ignorant.

 

[Snubnoze707]

lol. Keep lying. That’s exactly where YOU continue to dismiss any comments that don’t match the narrative you want to push. You and your “everyone”. Hahaha. We know your other buddy.

You are such a shameful liar. This is exactly what you said:

“Israeli's will repeatedly tell you they are taking Gaza to make it Jewish. Video after video of them saying this proudly. This couldn't be any more obviously Genocide.”

They, them, you clearly are implicating all of Israel. You WANT to implicate ALL Israelis. You are actively TRYING to make others believe ultra orthodox settler activists represent Israel. That that is what Israel looks like. And again, you either know it’s a lie or you’re that ignorant.

If I thought that ALL Israelis thought exactly like that I would just say it. Why would I "try" to say that? I have no clue if ALL Israelis think like that or not. THOSE Israelis in that video do, and MANY other Israelis do. I'm making no claims about some kind of hive mind where every single Israeli thinks the same you fucking retard. I already said that once and I'm saying it again that I'm not saying that.

What matters most is what the LEADERS think, and they absolutely DO fall in line with ultra orthodox settlers.

Again, it's this double standard shit. People in here make outright blanket statements about Palestinians all of the time and I don't see you taking any issue with it.