Had Hendricks not been ridiculously ribbed by GSP and mildly robbed by Lawler where would he rank as a WW?

[SaltedVinegarfootstomps]

Let’s make no mistake about it Hendricks beat GSP into a disheveled ready to retire state. Robbie had a brilliant 5th round but imo lost. No wonder the man ate himself out of career until he got beat up by a gay porn star. Where would Hendrix be ranked had he not been robbed inthe two biggest points of his career?

Hendricks proved he lost the fire in the 5th round of the Lawler fight. It's clear even getting robbed went straight to his head and he tried coasting from then on. Even if we give him the W against GSP he lacked the discipline and mindset to perform at a championship level. He chose the burgers.

 

[Trabaho]

I mean I don't want to say anything definite but I suspect GSP deliberately didn't announce he was retiring until AFTER the match for a reason.

Draw wise I'd agree Hendricks was never really considered that great, he got some hype off of those KOs but he was never really beloved.

GSP is a top 5 draw of all time in the UFC. Who sold the most ppvs ?

Brock, Ronda, Conor, GSP and than probably Jones, Spider and maybe Khabib. Those are top of my head and I am 100% sure the top 7 draws in the UFC ever. Part of Jones PPV overal sales gotta be considered he did the most Main events, longest career. GSP could be like 3 or 4 best selling fighters. I am sure all his main events in Canada are sold out fast and for high prices.

 

[jooohnmatrix]

Gsp was the first mma superstar that got the LGBTQi supporters watching. The powers that be were never going to let a Texan jacked whiteboy take the belt and lose the pink vote.

 

[Mock Artwork]

Hendricks won that fight however you look at it, to me anyway. But, yeah, shady character.

 

[Mind Mine]

Hendricks proved he lost the fire in the 5th round of the Lawler fight. It's clear even getting robbed went straight to his head and he tried coasting from then on. Even if we give him the W against GSP he lacked the discipline and mindset to perform at a championship level. He chose the burgers.

Bruh you don’t think getting the nod against GSP as well as Lawler would have kept his fire alive longer? That’s pretty unfair when he was clearly highly discontent in both situations and DRAMATICALLY alter his all time ranking

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Top 70% for sure.

 

[Stump]

One guy won on points, the other on damage.

One guy won the match, the other guy won the fight.

Underappreciated post.

This sums it up perfectly.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Funny if anyone has an opinion on the fight GSP got beat up you go into a defensive shell for your fucking Daddy. This thread really was about where would Hendricks have ranked yet here you are on some bullshit pointing fingers at imaginary tears while crying like a hoe. Shut up

Two things:
1. I wasn't talking with you so this lashing out is way out of proportion.
2. Your original premise is wrong. Claiming Hendricks was ridiculously Ribbed is straight out wrong. It was a close razor thin fight. Maybe Hendricks could have gotten the decision but it boiled down to how the first round was scored and it was razor thin.

Maybe Hendricks ate a ridiculous amount of Ribs?

 

[dipstickjimmy]

One other thing.

Who wins under PRIDE rules?

Let’s say we go with round 1 being a coin flip unified……

Looking at stats only since you brought them up (and memory). Johnny landed more strikes, had more control time and did more damage in round 1. Striking was nearly even but Johnny still had the edge everywhere.

Round 5 was a stinker for both but 3-5 clearly GSP.

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I would have to rewatch. I remember my gut thinking GSP lost (and his facial expressions, body language and everything else told me the same).

I also remember being happy he won “yay one of my favorites are still champ, fuck Johnny lol” then being like “wtf” and disappointed with the GSP speech leaving. So now I’m like “Johnny probably should have won and it wouldn’t suck so much”.

Well the Pride rules thing is not able to be judged fairly. Pride is one 10 minute round. They didn't fight a 10 minute round. IMO Johnny gasses and loses the round badly if he doesn't get finished.

I disagree with your assessment Johnny had the advantage everywhere. Not sure how you can arrive at that? Strike difference is 1. Control Time 26 seconds isn't really control time IMO. I don't recall any Top Control but certainly not significant. At the end of the day it was a razor thin round. Had it gone to Johnny so be it but it didn't. It wasn't a Robbery at all. Two clear rounds for each fighter and one round razor thin.

 

[Mind Mine]

Two things:
1. I wasn't talking with you so this lashing out is way out of proportion.
2. Your original premise is wrong. Claiming Hendricks was ridiculously Ribbed is straight out wrong. It was a close razor thin fight. Maybe Hendricks could have gotten the decision but it boiled down to how the first round was scored and it was razor thin.

Maybe Hendricks ate a ridiculous amount of Ribs?

Nah GSP was beat up Hendricks was fine and he was beaten into retirement. Yes you most certainly did address me on some ridiculous premise of crying and even went into a long diatribe about “people crying” because of an opinion different than yours. It’s a classic sherloser move of falsely creating an emotional state for the next poster so you can prattle on about your on wack assed emotions while holding onto a spelling error like an unfunny clown. Have at it if that’s your angle. I see through it. It’s hella corny dawg

 

[Strijfy]

the only thing that matters


Your emotional state is pretty suspect dude

 

[AfroBanana]

Well the Pride rules thing is not able to be judged fairly. Pride is one 10 minute round. They didn't fight a 10 minute round. IMO Johnny gasses and loses the round badly if he doesn't get finished.

I disagree with your assessment Johnny had the advantage everywhere. Not sure how you can arrive at that? Strike difference is 1. Control Time 26 seconds isn't really control time IMO. I don't recall any Top Control but certainly not significant. At the end of the day it was a razor thin round. Had it gone to Johnny so be it but it didn't. It wasn't a Robbery at all. Two clear rounds for each fighter and one round razor thin.

Okay then ONEFC or RIZIN judging. Now you can’t use the 10 minute round excuse. I’m basically saying where damage and fight is judged overall but you’re trying to negate that with PRIDE.

Also, I just rewatched the first round. Johnny absolutely landed much better shots to the head and his knees in the clinch to the thighs > GSP barely hitting the body. Besides a couple of slappy kicks GSP’s striking was soft in that round and his jab was non existed. He barely found the head. Between the elbows and clean punches to the head I cannot see where George wins the striking with 1 more significant strike and 1 less total strikes. Both got takedowns and GSP has a sub briefly.

Johnny found the head way more and did damage. GSP was tapping the body in the clinch. Johnny was sending GSP’s leg flying backwards with heavy thigh shots. The head and leg work > GSP’s body shots (the bulk of what he did).

 

[mkt]

I'm sure if he beat GSP for the belt and beat Lawler twice then retired before USADA and his losing streak, he would be considered Khabib level (especially if you disregard his personality, fish hooking Woodley in collegiate wrestling, and pretend he was totally clean because he never got caught roiding.)

He may or may not have roided. No one will ever know. But if any WW champ ever roided, my money is on this guy.

 

[SaltedVinegarfootstomps]

Bruh you don’t think getting the nod against GSP as well as Lawler would have kept his fire alive longer? That’s pretty unfair when he was clearly highly discontent in both situations and DRAMATICALLY alter his all time ranking

That's my point though, a championship mentality eluded him. Johnny lost to GSP on the cards and spun out. We just saw Volk win back a belt after multiple, brutal finishes and a 3 fight losing streak- at an age when most begin to fall behind in a division that values speed and reaction time. Big rig tasted some success, opened a burger joint, stuffed his face and flamed out of MMA and the restaurant industry in short order.

 

[USA!USA!]

He would have still had a rocky career.. but he got robbed, no doubt about it.. however, that would have been his crowning achievement IMO

 

[TempleoftheDog]

I don’t typically correct minor spelling errors. I leave the hem in place so the corny mothafuckas with nothing better to say can still get their bullshit Jay Leno punchlines in. I did it for you sherbroseph. Enjoy

The typo is in the TITLE, man.

Do you not read your title over before you post a new thread? Clearly not. So that already tells me a lot about you. Then there’s the dubs. At least you can’t make another troll thread for a month.

Oops.. Not dubs, you need to try harder. You even half ass your infractions.

 

[jooohnmatrix]

Hendricks won that fight however you look at it, to me anyway. But, yeah, shady character.

I was actually a big gsp fan and wanted him to win and I remember feeling crushed watching it live thinking it was the end of an era and then when he got his had raised I just couldn’t enjoy it. No matter how many times I’ve watched that fight just can’t see how GSP got the victory. It was a one sided beat down. In saying that Hendricks choosing to coast for a round was the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in the cage to this day.

 

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I was actually a big gsp fan and wanted him to win and I remember feeling crushed watching it live thinking it was the end of an era and then when he got his had raised I just couldn’t enjoy it. No matter how many times I’ve watched that fight just can’t see how GSP got the victory. It was a one sided beat down. In saying that Hendricks choosing to coast for a round was the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen in the cage to this day.

Yeah it was pretty brutal. He is a top p4p goat but he will always be marred by the Hendricks/Serra fights. There was absolutely no reason to lose to Matt Serra. Probably the biggest upset to me in MMA, though that’s assuredly subjective. What can be said is he was a next generation fighter when styles really dictated fights.

 

[WalterSobchak]

GSP by whatever he wants.

 

[Lawrence]

Let’s make no mistake about it Hendricks beat GSP into a disheveled ready to retire state. Robbie had a brilliant 5th round but imo lost. No wonder the man ate himself out of career until he got beat up by a gay porn star. Where would Hendrix be ranked had he not been robbed inthe two biggest points of his career?

He is tough to put a finger on.

I think Title Run Big Rig is even money with any prime middleweight in history, including all the champions.

But that same Title Run Hendricks would have been finished and his story stopped short if his fight with Condit was even 4 rounds.