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Most Americans would be SHOCKED to visit a local park near the Microsoft Campus, it's like your in Mumbai.
I watched some videos of offices google has.
Crazy stuff
Most Americans would be SHOCKED to visit a local park near the Microsoft Campus, it's like your in Mumbai.
Many Indian managers would hire Indian engineers only. That's a part of the culture, and it killed one of the companies I worked for.Most Americans would be SHOCKED to visit a local park near the Microsoft Campus, it's like your in Mumbai.
Well US schools have the funding. My question is where is it going? There's so much nonsense built into the system nowMaybe fund public education so that there isnt a shortage of STEM field graduates?
It is not about money. China and India do not spend nearly as much money and the result is way better. It is school program, teachers, and attitude.Well US schools have the funding. My question is where is it going? There's so much nonsense built into the system now
I think we have a lot of shit going on. I’ll stick to my own field because I don’t know much about tech. A lot of American engineering students are looking for a path to management.Take a look at H1B occupation statistics:
https://www.myvisajobs.com/Reports/2019-H1B-Visa-Category.aspx?T=OC#LCA
90% of the H1B visa holders are computer SW/HW/Network/etc engineers.
Majority of the CS/EE engineers graduating from US universities are foreigners on J1 visa who have to leave the country once they graduate:
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign-students-and-graduate-stem-enrollment
US education produces only about 20,000 engineers/year who can be employed.
Not the most recent article, but it shows that there are over 500,000 CS positions were open for 50,000 US graduates (they do not take into account that 80% of those graduates have to leave the country).
https://qz.com/929275/you-probably-should-have-majored-in-computer-science/
Basically, anyone who is willing to get a job with six figures salary can do that. Get CS/EE degree and after 3-5 years your salary will be in 100+K range if you are not too stupid. Even 60K of foreign H1B specialists coming each year is not sufficient to cover all these positions.
Why is this not happening? Why people do not want to get this decent salary and benefits? It would be very interesting to hear.
Cost of education does not seem to be an issue. There are low cost options like Community College with transfer to State university that can be as low as $20-30K for bachelor degree that can be paid off in a year. Even if it is $100K it can be paid off quickly.
My theory is that Math education is completely broken in the US. My kids were going to the best US schools and yet I had to spend tons of money and time to raise their understanding of Math to some adequate level. I am not talking about anything advanced. Just basic Math they are teaching at school. Even if they get "A" grades that does not mean they can solve any real math problems.
A few years back US department of Education realized that "Our Best In The World" system produces miserable results. That resulted in Common Core Standard system that did not make things any better. There are too many things that are broken and until attitude changes from "We Are The Greatest" to "We Suck" I do not expect any change.
Yes 130k every year... Lol at you angsty twats defending this.130,000/330,000,000 = 0.00040625
muh INFUSION
muh 0.04% INFUSION
of people who are here specifically to work hard and make a life for their family, and offer skills in demand
GTFO
H1B is for doctors too numb nuts. Not everything revolves around IT.
There is artificially limited supply of doctors in the US. Getting into the medical school is incredible tough and expensive process.lot of rural docs only work there due to h1 visas.. good luck attracting talent to bumfuck nowhere
If you find a quality visa holder, it’s a great value for your company as you can retain them for a long time, keeping qualified Americans is hard as they easily move for better offers and locations
The H1B is a mixed bag. On one hand it's abused by a lot of these foreign tech companies, mostly from India, that are just basically staffing mills for cheap IT employees that undercut American labor, and whom most of them have never even step foot in this country.
On the other hand it's a great tool to retain high quality talent who have studied in the US, and provides a path to green card and citizenship. These people are usually the creme de la creme of their native countries who have come to attend the top American institutes, and many do want to live in this country and contribute. In a time where intellectual property is a valuable resource, and the brain drain is a real thing, the H1B visa helps overcome that.
Unfortunately the H1B visa system is deeply flawed. It's a lottery system where the odds are the same for a PH.D student who have studied and worked as interns in the US for years versus some cheap Indian IT guy who's never been in this country and will be getting paid much less than market value. I've seen cases where very good co-workers did not win the H1B lottery and had to go back to their home countries, despite being in the US for 6+ years, working for an American company under the F1 OPT visa for two years and paying taxes. Due to the uncertainty and cost of the H1B visa a lot of companies don't actually sponsor the candidates, further restricting the employment prospects of quality candidates from the American post graduate education system.
What really needs to happen is a total revamp of the H1B system. There needs to be a faster, more secure and less restrictive visa category for people who have studied in the country, worked here and paid taxes, rather than lumping them with the low wage foreign IT sweatshop workers. In times like this where China is investing billions to attract top quality professors and researchers to work for China, we need to really find a way to attract and retain high quality foreigners who want to live in this country and contribute to its future success.
Who else would good at it? FBI has lots of specialists, some focus on white collar crime, some on pedophiles , some on 1%ers, some on domestic spies and industrial espionage etc..
Even with all the US and foreign talent, you're still facing a major shortages from now forecasted till 2025
https://recruitingdaily.com/why-the-u-s-has-a-stem-shortage-and-how-we-fix-it-part-1/#:~:text=The National Association of Manufacturing,highly skilled candidates in demand.
I agree oversight should be done to ensure the US talent pool gets priority to jobs and pay befitting of educated, qualified and talented domestics but you're currently and on pace to fall way behind the demand.
Time to consider revamped high school to focus less in humanities and arts and more on math, coding and automation
H1-B workers do have anchor babies. Just read an article about 2 days ago about an Indian H1-B couple who had 2 kids while working here. The mother was visiting her mother in India and is now stranded there, cause of strict US entry requirements for non citizens , owing to Wuhan virus. On a personal level I know of some H1-B couples who have had kids here.
I do not see H1-B visas as the enemy. Far more benign than anchor babies getting all their peasant relatives in.
You guys already do this.
You should have seen the pile of paperwork I (someone in my company) had to do to work in the US for a couple of months. Also had to bring my original diploma to the airport with me. Had to explain why I could the job and there were no US citizens that could etc... what a nightmare.
I don't disagree that the H1-B software progammer's kids have a higher odds of being college grads. The kid of the illegal Central American will also be productive, just in a different field.
I look at the person coming across the Southern Border in a different light, as someone who is native to the Americas, living in poor conditons , and in the case of El Salvador, Nicaragua, Guatemala, someone who lived under death squads / dictatorships that in part was funded by the US. So these folks coming here helps them, their familes and country which I prefer over attracting the educated foreigners just because it advances American economic interests.
Americans are too busy majoring in Business, Psychology, and Sociology.
H1B visas will be done soon. Right now even conservative companies switching to remote.