Crime Guy RNCed on NY subway dies. Trial begins 10/21

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

what does that entail?

Court mandated sponsors to ensure he completes the entire treatment or lose his plea deal and immediately serve his sentence in jail.

Proper detox and mental health programs in prisons so that people don't come back and continue to be just as dangerous as when they came in.

Check in program to monitor individuals who are violent relapse risks.

That's off the top

 

[Rob Battisti]

Court mandated sponsors to ensure he completes the entire treatment or lose his plea deal and immediately serve his sentence in jail.

How would that work? Where are these people going to come from? Paid? Trained? Is this their FT job?

Proper detox and mental health programs in prisons so that people don't come back and continue to be just as dangerous as when they came in.

This exists.

Check in program to monitor individuals who are violent relapse risks.

This also exists.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

How would that work? Where are these people going to come from? Paid? Trained? Is this their FT job?

This exists.

This also exists.

Contract them from rehab facility as needed is the simplest solution. Minimizes additional training requirements. Getting volunteers is certainly possible but it'd be better to create some jobs.

These exist but do not exit in a functional or reliable way that would prevent an incident like this. It needs court oversight to enforce it

 

[Rob Battisti]

Contract them from rehab facility as needed is the simplest solution. Minimizes additional training requirements. Getting volunteers is certainly possible but it'd be better to create some jobs.

These exist but do not exit in a functional or reliable way that would prevent an incident like this. It needs court oversight to enforce it

So a court order would require someone to be paid.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

So a court order would require someone to be paid.

I don't see an issue with that.

 

[Rob Battisti]

I don't see an issue with that.

You’d need a work force of tens of thousands of people working with usually violent offenders paid for by local municipalities at the discretion of the local municipality. You can’t just have a program.

 

[Hdfi]

I'd love to watch a Netflix documentary about this case but without the woke nonsense. This guy is a hero.

 

[Andy Capp]

Oh, you’re right. We should build country clubs for such people. Bed sores. Give me a break he wasn’t bed ridden.

Christmas is a time for giving so I'll give you this advice. You really should work on your reading comprehension. I won't mention it again because I'd rather not beat a dead horse but put down the pipe already and use your head for more than a hat rack.

The hypothetical comparison is in the quality of care among institutions, not the nature of the need for care. Obviously, an old person in a hospice and mentally ill person with a penchant for violence and other criminal behaviour need to be treated differently. No one is saying otherwise. But in both cases if the quality of care is low there will almost certainly be a terrible outcome that neither person deserves.

But I know you don't agree because you give zero fucks about other people unless they're giving you an excuse to feel self-righteous, or you wouldn't be making these dishonest and poorly reasoned excuses for saying fuck you to the dead mentally ill guy. Bite me.

 

[Andy Capp]

Society has spoken when it comes to Neely and it's ilk

Fuck you, you sick sack of shit.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

Fuck you, you sick sack of shit.

Lol, k

 

[Scerpi]

This why we need to fix it, not go back to something worse

Can’t force him to stay… at least not with current laws

The left would have a shit fit I’d that started happening

I mean, I’d support giving him a choice

- Prison
- Care Facility

He’d be alive either way

 

[Scerpi]

Fuck you, you sick sack of shit.

Hmmm…. Sounds much like most of the left cheering the CEO’s murder

 

[Andy Capp]

Hmmm…. Sounds much like most of the left cheering the CEO’s murder

Can you show me any post where I cheer his murder?

And lol @ "most of the left". More dishonesty from the usual suspects. You people are worthless here. Lie lie lie... it's all you can do.

 

[Andy Capp]

I'm not sure; I'd have to be in the situation. But even in that scenario, I don't know how long until the police are going to arrive, IF police are going to arrive, if any of us are going to get tired, if the person we're holding now has some sort of knife or other weapon that we don't know about, and so on. The best way to handle a threat is to neutralize it, not to keep battling it and hope you're the one that comes out on top.

Sigh. He's a skinny guy being held down by three adult men.

 

[Andy Capp]

That mean old healthcare facility probably made him follow rules

You lose me when you join in on this dishonest crap. Fine, you hate the kid because of his behaviour. You don't need to invent extra things to blame him for.

Since he walked out of his own accord it seems obvious to me the issue is they couldn't enforce their rules--they clearly need more power and resources to do that. In other words, the system failed Neely, right? It seems to me it's not equipped to deal properly with most of the people in its care.

 

[scoopj]

Yeah they do, cuts off oxygen to the brain. Now Michael Crackson may have had an advantage by surviving with minimal neurological connectivity when it was alive, but getting a blood choke on you for that long (if true) is a death sentence .

lmao

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

You’d need a work force of tens of thousands of people working with usually violent offenders paid for by local municipalities at the discretion of the local municipality. You can’t just have a program.

Obviously but it is worth developing. Better than keeping a system that just floods them back into the streets. No one said it'd be easy. But it'd be the right thing to do

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Can’t force him to stay… at least not with current laws

The left would have a shit fit I’d that started happening

I mean, I’d support giving him a choice

- Prison
- Care Facility

He’d be alive either way

Absolutely would need to be laws regulating it.

 

[Rob Battisti]

Obviously but it is worth developing. Better than keeping a system that just floods them back into the streets. No one said it'd be easy. But it'd be the right thing to do

Pilot in a city and see how it goes. I’m sure the billions that California spends has something similar