Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by pankrat, Mar 19, 2020.
I’ve argued this very point. Well said.
you talk about finishes as if it was just a fancy thing,
finishing your opponent is the ultimate goal of fighting, the hardest thing to do, and will always weight more than a decision, no matter how dominant it is. You would have a point if the level of competition wasnt comparable, but its's not the case
Not in my experience, obviously.
the objective is to win. To dominate. To inflict damage while receiving none. You can secure a finish for a victory and still be dominated the vast majority of the fight. There’s nothing more dominant than outclassing an opponent for 25 minutes. That’s fairly obvious. I can’t understand this for you.
Yep. GSP is the greatest of all time. I said it
the objective is to win, but we are already talking about winners, thats why they are in GOAT dicussion in the first place - finishing your opponent is greater than going to a decision no matter how dominant it is, you won't hear any fighter saying otherwise.
I mean you pretend to argue that finishing a fight matters...wtf
the key word in GOAT discussions is “dominance.” 50-45 rounds. Leaving a 25 minute fight without a scratch. Never losing a round for years. Fighters would take championship victories and records over finishes anyday of the week. This is hardly debatable lol
lol this is ridiculous. Anderson left a 25 min fight without a scratch or even brorke a sweat vs Maia. Demian landed a total 10 strikes in the whole fight - 0 takedowns/subs too. Never somebody took GSP to a decision doing less. Except for Hardy, but you can't talk much about level of competition then.
What separate Anderson apart in the GOAT discussion aren't those decisions, but the fron kick, choke or even jab he pulled to finishing top competition.
Anderson defeat around same number of tittle contenders than GSP so not sure whats your point. That's why both are in GOAT discussion in the first place.
It's highly debatable.
Coming from a guy who doesn't even ackowledge that finishing your opponent is the ultimate goal of fighting- and its so since we are on Earth...who knows what else is or not debatable in your book, are you a flat Earther too?
what does that even mean?
If you pretend you bring "facts" that seal the case for GSP as the best ever you fool yourself
they have finished around same amount of top competitors, while Silva finished them more often. Now hide behind any stat you want but that's a FACT - many fans care about such fact and that's why Anderson is in more people's mind the Messi/Jordan/Federer of mma than they think so of GSP...at least out of North Amercia.
you referenced the Maia fight?
I have Anderson as number 2. Love The Spider but if that’s the fight you’re going to reference to Anderson greatness then I see why this discussion has blossomed the way it has.
by your logic, fighters would prefer every fight go like Anderson/Chael 1 as long as they got the finish...lol
GSPs flawless victories are the definition of dominance. Not someone fucking off and playing air guitar.
this is my fault. I should’ve recognized your trolling earlier. Good form.
Its indeed your fault and it is since the beginning; you knew where you was coming don't fool urself.
Silva and GSP have beat same amount of top competition - Silva didnt let it to the judges so often - which is regarded as greater accomplishment in most people's mind, at least out of North America - try to acknowledge it
no, it’s not. I don’t care how important you think getting mounted by Travis Lutter is, never losing a round is a better feather in the cap than losing rounds and securing last minute, fight saving subs. There’s no such thing as a fluke 50-45.
Certainly your fault, it can be otherwise with this level of debate
That “debate” was over after your first response, kiddo. Fight Finder has betrayed you.
Not facts at all. Where did you get your info?
The emails are in that link.
Why do you say it's not true?
Fight finder is checked by hardcores, and also shertards.
Casuals don't even know fight finder, thats why Anderson is the GOAT for most people out of North America - they remember the way he finished legends, not whatever stat you may bring to support GSP case
Why do you keep spewing that bullshit even though you admitted that you are bullshitting?
Okay, show me where they say they won't do it unless they know what dates the tests are on.
You are such an idiot. I am not wasting time pointing out all the idiocy, I will simply point out that your title makes a definitive statement, then in your first sentence you try to say it's your opinion. No.