GSP confirmed GOAT

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Jones failed drug test. Anderson failed drug test. Fedor never fought in UFC and got crushed in strike force. GSP retired as champion with 9 straight title defences, most UFC wins in history, and avenges both of his only 2 losses in devastating fashion. Argue all you want. But he's the best, and always has been.
 
Tito is back to LHW GOAT

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Except GSP got out before USADA started getting serious about random drug testing. Anderson and Bones never tested positive before USADA implemented random drug tests. And GSP also started to decline towards the end of his career when he was going on about USADA and whatnot. Curious, no?
 
I'm a big GSP fan but I sadly wouldn't be shocked to hear he took some stuff that gets tested for regularly today.
 
Except GSP got out before USADA started getting serious about random drug testing. Anderson and Bones never tested positive before USADA implemented random drug tests. And GSP also started to decline towards the end of his career when he was going on about USADA and whatnot. Curious, no?
So basically what you just said was you ASSUME GSP was on something even though he never tested positive for anything. And even if he was "declining" he still was WINNING unlike silvas decline of getting rekes by Weidman twice, and fedor losing a to big foot Silva and werdum.
 
Ortiz is a can. 18-12. Liddell made him his bitch. Got choked out by a MW who was nice enough to leave him the belt and peace out.

Still

Second most successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
Second most consecutive successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
Second most wins in Light Heavyweight division championship fights (6)
Most wins in the Light Heavyweight division (15)

Never popped, now LHW GOAT
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Why do so many sherdoggers think that opinions are facts. GOAT discussions are primarily opinion based on what ever criteria one deems important, just like #1p4p.

Also let's try to wait and see what substance he used that is banned because weed and cocaine are banned substances.
 
So basically what you just said was you ASSUME GSP was on something even though he never tested positive for anything. And even if he was "declining" he still was WINNING unlike silvas decline of getting rekes by Weidman twice, and fedor losing a to big foot Silva and werdum.

Yes. That's exactly what I said. Just like you ASSUME GSP was not on anything just because he never tested positive before he was ever randomly drug tested in his career.
 
Jones failed drug test. Anderson failed drug test. Fedor never fought in UFC and got crushed in strike force. GSP retired as champion with 9 straight title defences, most UFC wins in history, and avenges both of his only 2 losses in devastating fashion. Argue all you want. But he's the best, and always has been.

And was KO'ed in his prime.

It's obvious you were waiting for this day with glee, but unfortunately a drug testing violation doesn't erase an entire career.
 
Except GSP got out before USADA started getting serious about random drug testing. Anderson and Bones never tested positive before USADA implemented random drug tests. And GSP also started to decline towards the end of his career when he was going on about USADA and whatnot. Curious, no?
Do a little research before you post.
GSP did undergo the 'serious' USDA testing for the Hendricks fight.
He volunteered for it. Big Rigg refused.
 
Yes. That's exactly what I said. Just like you ASSUME GSP was not on anything just because he never tested positive before he was ever randomly drug tested in his career.
So basically a bunch of speculation with zero fact that mean literally nothing? Cool sounds good.
 
It was always GSP imo
MM is encroaching tho
 
Still

Second most successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
Second most consecutive successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
Second most wins in Light Heavyweight division championship fights (6)
Most wins in the Light Heavyweight division (15)

Never popped, now LHW GOAT
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He never popped? Thats not what Jenna said. Jenna makes everyone pop.

The only reason he has any of those records is because Frank Shamrock was gracious enough to stop embarrassing him.
 
Title defenses bro.

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Title defenses are arbitrary. It's quality of wins and losses that matters.

Tito is very lacking in that regard. Even some of his better wins on paper aren't as impressive as they seem. Wand just a fresh rook when Tito beat him, for instance. Wand was young and improved a lot, especially his TDD and muscle mass, by the time he fought Saku and Hendo a little while later.

I also think Vitor got robbed against Tito.

Context is important.
 
Do a little research before you post.
GSP did undergo the 'serious' USDA testing for the Hendricks fight.
He volunteered for it. Big Rigg refused.

You mean the fight he lost? Figures he was clean for that fight.
 
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