Gripping inside the sleeves in BJJ

[fulltilt]

I'm somewhat new to BJJ in a gi and have been told that gripping inside the sleeves and pants is illegal and I'm curious as to why:

International Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Federation (Article 5 under "Fouls not as serious")

Anybody care to enlighten me?

 

[Goat Gobbler]

You can not grip with your fingers "inside" of your opponents sleeves or pants. You can grip with your fingers inside of YOUR OWN sleeves/pants though (i.e. ezekial)

 

[Goat Gobbler]

it's illegal because you can't safely break the grips without injuring your opponents fingers. it's a fighter safety rule spawned from too many sprained/broken digits.

 

[Jagcorps_esq]

This is why a pistol grip or cuff grip is necessary. If you put your thumb into the sleeve and then turn it out, it creates a cuff that your fingers can go into, but it's really outside of the sleeve.

 

[fulltilt]

You can not grip with your fingers "inside" of your opponents sleeves or pants. You can grip with your fingers inside of YOUR OWN sleeves/pants though (i.e. ezekial)

Funny that right after I posted this, I saw someone do an Ezekiel choke and immediately said to myself that the rule must apply to only the opponent's sleeves/pants.

 

[Davii]

If you want to see why in person, ask someone to show you spider guard.

Make the grips inside the sleeves.. then have them pass your guard. Have 911 ready though

 

[fulltilt]

So basically, the rule is there for the safety of the person doing the gripping. I'll take your guys' word for it as I don't think I need/want to see the aftermath of what can go wrong.

Thanks for the responses.

 

[Vassago]

Try it with a partner (carefully). The person trying to break that grip will easily trap and twist some fingers, so yes, it's for the safety of the gripper. Same rule in Judo.

 

[dave070]

I actually fractured a purple belts middle and 3rd finger because he grabbed inside my pants for a guard pass. The guy is strong so i used my free leg to help, and all of a sudden i herd a *CRACK* like a twig snapping.....Fractured both his fingers. His fingers got twisted inside my pant leg, and he couldn't physically let go when i tried to kick away his grip.

Thats why we have the rule.

 

[teamcarvalho]

Its also a good way to get your Gi sleeves or pant legs ripped.

 

[Mike Wilson Jr.]

^ Where you been man!? Havent been posting much!