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Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by dza76wutang, Oct 4, 2010.

  1. dza76wutang

    dza76wutang Black Belt

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    In the grand scheme of things, how good/useful are static holds? I understand that they are practical for no-strap PLing but for general hand strength are they better than dynamic movements? I'm asking because I'm trying to maximize the value of my hand/forearm training time and I'm curious if static holds are more worthy of time than say, rolling, gripping, levering.
     
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    They're all useful. It depends on what you want. I like static holds just as much as I like the other stuff.
     
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    For general hand strength I would say static holds arent as important as wrist and pinch strength.

    As for the grip strength involved with a deadlift, I don't think anything more than holding onto the bar for a few seconds after your heavy sets is necessary. If youre using a mixed or hook grip you shouldnt have a problem in the first place. If you do have a problem holding onto the bar, double over handed timed holds, heavy rack pulls DOH or mixed etc.

    Static hold strength for grappling are super important. Thickbar pulling/rowing and timed holds = wrist conrol. Gripper timed holds/strap holds, one hand DLs = Gi control.
     
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    Krock Rows are also good for developing grip strength.
     
  5. Tosa

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    This is redundant since there's no such thing as PLing with straps.

    There's only one K in Kroc rows. The guys name is Kroczaleski, not Krockzaleski.
     
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    Unless someone's interested in getting a CoC certified close, there's no need to go with a CoC over another gripper. Also, it's much more affordable to just get a single adjustable gripper, rather than multiple other grippers. They're also adjustable.

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    The size of grippers make them more convenient to carry around. The Ivanko gripper is big and looks like a torture device. Not something I like to carry to the gym or bring to a friends house

    If your interested in comparing your training with someone elses chances are they are gong to be using grippers. Not too much training info out there for the Ivanko
     
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  11. dza76wutang

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    I have the Ivanko grippers (LOVE THEM, definitely worth the price, IMO), and I own a roller. I am not a powerlifter in the sense that I do not compete, however I am concerned with maxing out strength in the time I have in the weight room. I asked about static holds because I was curious if they were more effective than other exercises, like the two I mentioned previously.
     
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    I've always felt like wrist and thumb strength were the most important for having all around strong hands. I think most grip guys would agree. Levering and block weight pinching. Best tools for that, a sledge hammer and one end of a dumbell cut off from the handle
     
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  14. flak

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    Static holds work your support grip, ie. the ability to bear heavy weight with your fingers held still in a partly closed position. Support grip is a different thing from pinch grip and crush grip.

    If you just want to enhance your grip in every dimension possible, static holds are fine.

    If you specifically want to enhance your support grip because grip is the weak link in your deadlifts, rows, etc., then I think you're better off doing RDLs or fat bar deads, rows and RDLs.

    Reason: with static holds, you spend almost none of the time moving the bar, and therefore your grip doesn't have to cope with acceleration very much. (Acceleration makes it harder to grip the bar).
     
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    Are you trying to tell me that the adjustable grippers are adjustable?:D
     
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    Fat bar deadlifts greatly improved my support grip.
     
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    plate pinches and levering
     
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    Thanks guys!
     

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