Grip Strength - BJJ

Discussion in 'Strength & Conditioning Discussion' started by TeddyRoosevelt, Jan 1, 2013.

  1. TeddyRoosevelt

    TeddyRoosevelt Brown Belt

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    I am sure a bunch of the grappling forum guys saw this, but doubt much of f13 would have, so I figured I'd post it. Jordon Schultz (BJJ competitor) put this out as a sample grip strength workout (specific to BJJ).

    Personally, I do find gi-specific grip work to help significantly (and I don't do nearly enough of it).
     
  2. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

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    Hand, finger and wrist strength is under-rated.
     
  3. ClinicalRabbit

    ClinicalRabbit Yellow Belt

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    Especially in regards to crushing another puny humans hand.
     
  4. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

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    Ftfy
     
  5. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    or you could just roll more, tha tcould make your grip better
     
  6. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

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    Or, you could do things outside of class times in order to supplement your rolling. You know, because you can do more than one thing for training.

    EDIT: While I agree that actually doing your sport is the most important part of training, I often feel that the "rolling is all you need" attitude that is common in BJJ is counterproductive at times, as much as the old-school anti-weight training attitude of some boxing coaches.
     
  7. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    sure, but youd be killing to birds with 1 stone by rolling.
     
  8. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    I haven't really needed to do any BJJ-specific grip strength exercises since I started deadlifting heavy. If you can hold onto a barbell with several hundred lbs on it, you can hold onto a gi.

    I built it up by using double overhand grip for my sets until I couldn't anymore, doing touch-and-go reps with medium weight, and holding the bar at lockout on the last rep as long as I could. And definitely use chalk.

    Chinups are great too of course.

    Several people I've rolled with since I started deadlifting have commented that they can feel how much my grip strength has improved.
     
  9. Gaijin36

    Gaijin36 Orange Belt

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    I just ordered Fat Gripz, I'll let you know how they work...
     
  10. Im so Moldy

    Im so Moldy Blue Belt

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    Or you could do grip work AND roll, and kill that bird in a much more effective manner with 2 stones.
     
  11. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    aka overtraining. you dont need to workout your grips that much
     
  12. Pearse Shields

    Pearse Shields Amateur Fighter

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    This is the attitude that I was talking about. It's hard to overreach on grip strength, let alone actually overtrain.
     
  13. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    In not anti weight training. In fact i love weight training and do it myself. Its just hard to simulate the right kind of grip training for bjj. Not only is the opponent resistingvthe grip, but theyre moving too which requires you to stabilize. There is really no artificial simulation for this. I really think rolling is the best way to train your grips for bjj.
     
  14. calvus

    calvus Getting Crunk

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    I notice a big difference rolling with guys have strong grips vs. guys that don't. Rolling with guys that have grips that are hard to break is no fun. Stronger hands are better.

    So if you feel like you need to strengthen your hands, then doing extra grip work is probably a good idea.

    If you feel like you need to lose some weight, probably wouldn't hurt to eat less. Or maybe rolling is all you need....
     
  15. Fighting Sprite

    Fighting Sprite Green Belt

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    Nobody said otherwise, I think an argument could be made otherwise, though. Doing separate grip work, choosing from all possible grip exercises, in appropriate rep ranges will create a stronger overall grip than simply rolling. The question then becomes what is better for BJJ: A stronger overall grip, or a more sport specific grip? I do not care to answer this question, since there is no way to prove one way or the other.

    Assuming your point is correct, this still does not mean supplemental work can not, or should not, be done.
     
  16. snoop dogg***

    snoop dogg*** Baby Heath goon$quad

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    Poor analogy
     
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    Point is, isolating grip training for bjj is overrated. Id go as far as saying seperate s&c is overrated when you look at guys like caio terra. I lift weights, but not dpecific for bjj. More for my own personal reasons
     
  18. Fighting Sprite

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    Care to offer up some evidence to prove your point?
     
  19. redaxe

    redaxe Silver Belt

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    Caio Terra competes at 126 lbs with the gi on, and same day weigh-ins.

    If you're competing at 126 lbs, it's not even that you don't need to lift weights, it's that you can't lift weights, or else you will not be in that weight class anymore.

    For non-roosterweights, Caio's advice on strength training is worse than worthless.
     
  20. snoop dogg***

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    Thats ridiculous. He wont gain weight from grip training. Also he fights guys much bigger than him and wins openweight titles. The guys he beats weight train while he doesnt. He admitted he dislikes training outside of bjj.

    Caio terra and marcelo garcia, 2 world champions and some of the best p4p conpetitirs in bjj today dont strength train or condition outside of their jiu jitsu training and have admitted they find it unnecessary
     
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