Hey guys! I have found that I'm sadly not a gifted natural that can perform techniques to perfection. So I though I'd get scrappy in a non- painful way & find out some stuff about the way you guys grind your opponent/work an area of your opponent to finish a sub. My positioning & sweeps are OK against those at & below my level & have been better against the more advanced guys. But as I've stated many times in frustration I can't finish successfully. So don't get me wrong, I understand jiu jitsu should work for everyone & it is my human error I'm not finishing people well enough. However, what do you guys like to do to work a position. I don't mean the nasty stuff like cross facing etc but the little added things you do in positions to work for a particular sub or open up your opponent? This helps me in armbar attempts for mount. I tend to struggle to open up my opponents arms if they are hugging tight to their chest. The thing I find helpful is to get a figure four grip around one their wrists & push to see which side is weaker. If in the case of their left arm is the one you want to attack, if they slip up & allow that arm to fall to their left then BAM.. they should have let themselves fall into kimura. However, if hey are stubborn/strong & they put their wrist to the right side of the body, this should give you space to slide around for the armbar. To really aggrivate your opponent with their arm figure 4'd on their side which is not vulnerable to a kimura (if that makes sense) press their wrist to their chest & raise your snaked hand up a little to put pressure across their bicep or/and forarm to cause discomfort so they move to an even weak position. If you still can't get their arm after you have swooped your left leg over, continue to push down with one hand & raise with the other, they'll either tap to this, move into a kimura or release into an armbar. A thing I want to try tonight (espicially on the more egotistical guys :icon_evil to wind them up) in mount is to grip the back of their neck like a can opener whilst having my elbows in either their pecs or biceps. I find guys tend to curl up in this position & hopefully doing something like this will cause them to move an arm or something into the wrong position so I can finish them. I know this is scrappy jiu jitsu but the guys I train more regularly with are MMA guys who appreciate the fact in grappling & in particular MMA.. no one gives a fuck if they haven't got a technique precisely on you as long as they get a sub. I'd obviously like to have beautiful jiu jitsu, but scrappy will do . BTW, I'm not one of those annoys doods that squeeze temples, crank necks, gouge eyes & low blow. I just want to learn some tips to make subbing someone that bit easier.