Discussion in 'Dieting / Supplement Discussion' started by HuMz, Mar 22, 2008.
On greensplus.com, GREENS Plus
I paid $75AUD for 250g for GNC Maximum Greens about 2 months ago. I feel ripped off.
ugh expensive. I havent looked at the GNC ones.. but i know Greens+ is questionable on import into Aus so i wont try
why the fuck do you guys buy these green things?
postwhoring again I see, JSN.
if you knew anything about dieting and supplementing, you'd know the benefits of Greens+.
Although no diet should be short of vegetables, Greens+ are still a great addition if you can get it.
do a search, and quit postwhoring.
i know know what the purported effects are you obnoxious gimmick; i'm asking why anyone would pay $80 for something that is so clearly a scam.
oooo frisky fighting.
QFT so someone can post some studies about it and shut you up.
Mike Martial, where art yee with studies?
and I am not an obnoxious gimmick, I am the voice of truth, noob.
JSN doesn't need studies. He can read (and use the search function, if he so wishes), and I'm sure he understands the nutritional value of whole-food added antioxidants, enzymes, vitamins and minerals, along with added buffering due to lowering the daily overall PRAL score.
but why pay a bunch of money for some dehydrated, foul-tasting shit as opposed to making something like gazpacho from hopefully fresh, or at worst frozen food that at least will have been less-processed about 50 times over?
and in fact, i've never seen anythng convincing in regards to pral. sounds like hocus pocus to me. your stomach ph is incredibly low has a pretty narrow level of homeostasis. how exactly are basic foods going to remian basic after they enter the stomach?
Here an idea then: Don't buy it. Your weak attempt at stirring the pot is, well, weak.
what the shit are you talking about? i seriously have no idea why people would buy this stuff. i've looked it up and it's a stereotypical fad nutritional product to the T. the manufacturers claim it'll make all of life's problems go away. please show me a reputable study that shows it doing something no related to increased fiber intake.
I honestly don't get why you're ranting about this.
It's a whole food supplement, which is important to keep in mind. It's an easy way to get a LOT of fruits and vegetables in one sitting. That's it. It doesn't have any outrageous, MuscleTech-like claims. And it doesn't even have much fiber in it, anyways. But tell me: when is adding more fruits and vegetables to one's diet a bad idea?
It's been studied in the Canadian Journal of Dietetic Practice, The American Society for Bone and Mineral Research, and through the University of Toronto for the Journal of Medicinal Foods based on it's ORAC value. That's all well and fine, but has it been studied with athletes specifically targeting performance? No. Will it? I doubt it, but that doesn't mean it's not a valuable WHOLE food supplement. It's no different than whey protein---it's a convenient way to get more of what an athlete needs.
I'd have to agree with JSN on this one. I used Greens+ for about three months and didn't notice any positive changes whatsoever. I was also pissing yellow a lot of the time indicating to me that my body was rejecting it even though I was completley hydrated with 1-2 gallons of water a day. It may work for some of you but for me it was a waste of money, just like every other supplement.
i'm not ranting; i'm genuinely interested why so many people on sherdog are using it, because i cannot see the appeal.
Well, with your former zero carb diet devode of fruits and vegetables, I'm surprised you even took it, Solk.
That's the riboflavin, and I'd expect that more from your multi than Greens+. And it's not a question of "working for some of us". I think too many people expect a caffiene like reaction from it. Once again, it's a FOOD supplement.
Regarding PRAL, have you read Berardi's article on acid and base balance?
One not of caution, however. A higher protein diet can present a high potential renal acid load (PRAL). Therefore some call high protein diets
i've read through a few of bernardi's articles, but never been too impressed. in this particular case, i'm not a biochemist, but i know enough about chemistry to know that in terms of acidic vs. basic fruits and veggies are all over the place in terms of whch way they skew, and also that homeostatis int he stomach is highly effective, as in the ph s way lower than any food you're going to injest, and the higher ph foods that cause the stomach's ph to increase quickly trigger an inflow of gastric acid to put it back down to ~2.
Riboflavin is what makes someone piss yellow? I wasn't taking a multi when I was using it, just Cod Liver oil which I have no negative reaction to and IMO is the only supplement worth paying for.....and even then I never took them both at the same time.
I wasn't expecting anything more than the noticable oxygen intake enhancements from green vegetables like broccoli, kale, and spinach. Not a caffeine-like rush either. With greens+ I did not experience anything positive or anything negative. It was a complete waste.