Greatest Muay Thai Fighters of All Time, as voted by Thai Legends

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  1. AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    This is still being updated, so this infographic will be out of date very quickly. Sylvie von Duuglas-Ittu has been asking golden age legends she knows/trains with their opinions on the top 5 greatest fighters of all time.

    As of this post, Samart has been on the most fighters lists, but Wichannoi has held the most number 1 rankings (4)

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    Fighters asked in order (so far):
    Karuhat
    Kaensak
    Namkabuan
    Dieselnoi
    Yodkhunpon
    Chamuakpet Hapalang
    Chatchai Sasakul
    Pinshinchai
    Sangtienno Sor. Rungroj
    Lamnamoon Sor Sumalee
    Samson Isaan
    Hippy Singmanee
     
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  2. Mickf Orange Belt

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    Yeah i noticed that about wichannoi. How highly rated he was by a lot of the fighters. Also i think he would of been old enough when he fought some of the fighters that rated him.
     
  3. Cocakillbana Black Belt

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    Western fans have been calling Apidej Sit Hrun a potential GOAT for as long as I've been following the sport, and here he doesn't even get a mention.
     
  4. AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    I don't personally feel that there is really enough information on his era (that's viewable in the west at least) to make an informed judgement on Apidej. I opined before that while his kicking power was fearsome, he didn't have the level of technique we'd see from fighters he'd later teach, like Yodsanklai - he would just launch into whatever strike he was throwing.

    That being said - I do also think that there's going to be an obvious bias here. Every sports generation thinks that they're in the worst one and that the old days were so much better, I think MMA might be the only sport that doesn't think that because it's the only one that's so blatently untrue. Of course these fellas are going to vote for a lot of their peers.

    I was actually a little surprised that Sagat hadn't come up - but I think Sagat might be a little bit of a meme in the West, because even though I think he's a formidable fighter - most things I see about him from the West are perpetuating the myth that he inspired the Street Fighter character.
     
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  5. Kanka Black Belt

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    And here i thought it was Buakaw, Ramon Dekkers, Jose Aldo and Jo Nattawut?
     
  6. Snubnoze707 High Level

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    Now that you mention it can we really take this list seriously without a single vote for Smokin' Jo? I'm skeptical...
     
  7. gevoudane ʇlǝq ʞɔɐlq

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    To be fair Saenchi is the name I hear most out here the west (west coast USA)
     
  8. AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    To be fair, there's quite a good argument to be made for Saenchai based on his achievements in his prime.
     
  9. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Throwing my apanyent

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    Yet the GOATS themselves hardly have him on their radar...
     
  10. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Throwing my apanyent

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    Sagat? Really?
     
  11. MarloStanfield The Wild Colonial Boy

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    any list that doesnt have JWP on it is number one bullshit
     
  12. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Throwing my apanyent

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    Yeah and where is Lamsongkram, too? The Michael Jordan of MT, that is, holder of the 170 pounds Raja belt.
     
  13. AndyMaBobs Brown Belt

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    Namkabuan, Yodkhunpon & Thailand Pinsinchai disagree with you :p
     
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    Theyv all might have different criteria for greatest to be fair. Do they mean terms of skill level at their peak? Dominance? Accomplishments? Longevity? Best record?
     
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    Yeah, I think this thread laid out a decent case for Saenchai as the greatest. But I'm always in the camp of the greatest doesn't exist.
     
  16. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Throwing my apanyent

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    Yes sure he does get a couple of mentions but as the ranking shows he is nowhere near the top.
     
  17. KBE6EKCTAH_CCP Throwing my apanyent

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    Good point. Most of the GOATS asked seem to have a bunch of subjective criteria, too. Like "this is a good friend of mine" or "this one I really like his style".

    YOu will also notice that many of them will say "in no particular order". I also think that most of them have a strong "previous generation respect" bias, too.

    Still a super interesting topic.
     
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    Only weights above 180 lbs(and im being generous) matter for men, we couldn't give 2 shits about toothpicks and they sure as hell have no place near the word goat
     
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    Mostly golden era fighters. Good to see Saenchai make the list
     
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    One of the dumbest things I've ever read
     

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