Great Barrington Declaration

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  1. Rygu R.I.P. Obie Platinum Member

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    A friend sent me this, it's a proposal by 3 Epidemiologists from Oxford, Harvard and Stanford. It has been signed by many other experts in the medical field. Just curious to see the opinions in here about this. This is the proposal:

    The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

    Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

    Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

    Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

    As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

    The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

    Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent PCR testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

    Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

    https://gbdeclaration.org/
     
  2. Drain Bamage Guitar God 420

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    Can I get a TLDR
     
  3. Rygu R.I.P. Obie Platinum Member

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    Stuff being done right now isn't very effective, do better stuff.
     
  4. Pliny Pete Puts Butts In Seats

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    Is this about that bear with the hat?
     
  5. lifelessheap Gold Belt

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    Yeah. Common sense
     
  6. Get To Da Choppa Purple Belt

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    It all makes sense. Unfortunately no mainstream media will carry it.

    I had posted pretty much the exact same strategy and made a website to spread the word about it back in late March. If someone like me who has a research and data background could figure this out 7 months ago, then why couldn't the policy makers do the same (Unless they don't want to)?

    https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/...-toll-452-271.4072361/page-307#post-159713930
     
  7. Plastikman_Eire Green Belt

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    It's been pretty widely reported in British and irish media at least.

    The concern with the proposed plan, is that we have never actually developed herd immunity to a disease without a vaccine being available.

    It also isnt very realistic to think we can identify the 'at risk' in order to segment them from the 'healthy' proportion of society.
     
  8. TsuFred Banned Banned

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    I say we re-open completely, no restrictions at all, let a majority of the world die, and then replace all those lost with kitty cats. Like Japan's cat island, but instead, China's covidcat utopia.
     
  9. Phlog Dad Belt

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    Korea called and they say you're missing the point.

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    Unfortunately now there is so many cases lockdown makes sense but once that's achieved and done ONCE we can control the virus thereon with an actually functional test, track and trace system.

    Then people who've come in contact with a carrier self isolate rather than the whole country having to lock down.

    Rolling lockdowns are not the result of good policy, they are the result of incompetence. The answer is not to double down on being a total shit bird of a country but to do it fucking right in the first place.
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  10. The_Renaissance Sherdog Bunceweight Champion

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    I signed it.

    There's definitely things we're not being privy to via the mainstream media, the MSM is the mouthpiece of a government that has made a complete mess of controlling the pandemic and now has to resort to lockdown because they have no clue how else to do things. Hence, the MSM is simply telling us lockdown is the only way. Things like this aren't even being given the coverage they deserve despite being endorsed by qualified experts, because a) it makes the government look clueless and b) it would encourage the public to defy lockdown.

    As @Phlog summed up perfectly, above:

    Rolling lockdowns are not the result of good policy, they are the result of incompetence. The answer is not to double down on being a total shit bird of a country but to do it fucking right in the first place.

    I couldn't agree more.
     
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