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Grappling experts: why is Romanov’s forarm choke not utilized more?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by The Mookster, Nov 8, 2020.

  1. The Mookster Purple Belt

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    He made the set up for the choke look quite easy and it looked incredibly effective. It appeared to be a blood choke. Questions:
    1) Do you need to just cut off one carotid artery for a blood choke or did the opponents body/floor cut off the second?

    2) Also, it doesn’t seem like a choke that takes a lot of energy While seemingly zaps the shit out of your opponent. Why don’t you see this more often? Is it easy to counter or escape? Was it just the fact that Romanov as humongous as why it worked?
     
  2. Portland8242 Black Belt

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    1) yes, you only need to choke one side of the neck for it to be effective.

    2) Indeed, Romanov is a 260 pound bear. I highly doubt lighter guys can pull that choke off.
     
  3. JustAkidFrom209 Banned Banned

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    There are grappling experts on Sherdog?
     
  4. Chok Sok Te Purple Belt

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    Seems he’s mastered it. Got a few of those on his record. You could see him going for it in his UFC debut
     
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  5. superpunch Banned Banned

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    Wanderlei Silva did it to Keith Jardine, kind of.
     
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  6. Hellowhosthat Steel Belt

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    It helped that De Lima pretty much just laid there and let it happen, too.

    He isn't pulling that off on a decent level grappler, I don't think.
     
  7. Hellowhosthat Steel Belt

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    That was just to hold him in place while he punched him in the face though.
     
  8. FlyingDeathKick Silver Belt

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    Idk who Romanov is but Machida won by forearm choke a long ass time ago.
     
  9. bleeder Blue Belt

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    The only time it ever finishes is if the guy doubts the choke and becomes complacent. It's a very low percent choke if your opponent recognizes the danger they're in when you start applying pressure and you'll lose it immediately.
     
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    Still got the finish though!
     
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  11. RustyShacleford Green Belt

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    I'm no expert, but like most dominant top-position techniques, it seems like it requires doing a lot of little things right to maintain control. Those things, like maintaining balanced pressure, are hard to see, so it looks easy when guys do it right, but there's a reason not everyone can do it.
     
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  12. GrantB13 Red Belt

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    It seems like it's easier to escape so it probably doesn't work too often.
     
  13. yougetKTFO Red Belt

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    That was a rape choke lol
     
  14. mungos Purple Belt

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    I pulled it off once, it requires you to be a lot stronger.
     
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    It's pretty easy to escape but hey the guy is fuckin huge ,i think from what i remember de lima was in half guard with his back flat on the mat also,he was probably dead tired but a decent grapplers will never do that
     
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  16. FIGHTING TALK Banned Banned

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    The guy on bottom did nothing to move his hips. Simply by framing and using some basic Jiu Jitsu will keep you from being put to sleep by this choke.
     
  17. Prince Nephilim Philmortal Belt

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    Terrible defense was utilize from the bottom
     
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    I used that exact same choke to win an amateur fight from full-mount in early ‘07. I was more chest-to-chest so that it was “hidden”. My own corner and everyone in the building including the ref didnt even know what he was tapping my back from.

    It was a boss move to be done at the UFC level and that HW has legit skills grappling overall.

    edit: the underhook is crucial, and the Gable grip to provide tons of leverage across the throat. Only the mat behind the head .
     
  20. LHWBelt Gold Belt

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    Yeah that doesn't work on high level guys. Props to him for getting a ufc guy with it though, that's impressive.
     
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