What this video really shows is that Jiu-Jitsu has come such a long way. The black belts and world champions of today's generation are light years ahead of the greats from 90's, no one can dispute that.
Did he cross his legs during the armbar?
I am not even going to lie I was really disappointed with a guy at Pedro Sauer level taking that long against an untrained body builder. I mean we are talking one of the best Brazilian Jujitsu practitioners in the world here. This video took place a long time ago but still Sauer is a red belt Helio and sons.
I'm in no way comparing myself to either of those guys , but the way the bodybuilder couldn't even block a punch that was telegraphed like 2 days before it was thrown , didn't made me really impressed with him, and neither with a guy that can defeat him.
Gracies are so sad, Bodybuilding is not a martial art and Mr. Utah is not an accolade lol
Yes, that version you can because the arm is isolated.Did he cross his legs during the armbar?
I love how everyone is analyzing this like a pro MMA fight.
What a bunch or tards.
Here's a news flash, back in the early MMA days there was no such thing as a "trained fighter". People boxed, or got in bar fights. The big dudes who could smash, regardless of having zero technique, would dominate the bar fights and boxers usually knew enough about fighting not to get into street brawls.
Gracie Jiu Jitsu basically introduced the world to a fighting system that was applicable and legitimate. When this video went down, everyone thought the Arnold's and Sylvester's of the world were the bad asses because they were built.
So what better way to prove the point of a fighting style than to challenge and defeat the epitome of hugeness that everyone thought was the pinnacle of self defense at the time?
The saying that technique beats strength? Hate to break it to you but although it was true, it was also a marketing ploy. The fine print: If your technique is better than your opponents, then yes, it will beat strength. When the technique is equal, guess who wins? The better athlete. .
better technique over strength is a variable scale, you get someone that is a hell of a lot bigger and stronger than you then your technique better be a hell of a lot better than theirs. I have gone against the bodybuilders and power lifters that have come to our gym and 9 times out of 10 I do beat them, but I feel like I got the shit beat out of me almost every time. Then once in awhile a guy will just beat me with his strength, the only consolation I have is that I was able to use technique enough that they weren't able to continue due to exhaustion.
Then those same guys stick around and train for 3 or 4 months and they are kicking ass. We like to think strength doesn't matter, but reality is it does. Yes Royce beat Kimo in UFC 3, but he wasn't able to fight in the finals after, the fight took that much out of him.
I can't agree with this. There have always been people who trained specifically in fighting, not just boxing and bar fights. Think about the guys who fought in the first UFC. Every single one of them was a trained fighter as far as they knew. They spent their lives honing the skills of their particular art, and they would all most likely have beaten a bodybuilder who doesn't train in any kind of fighting. The idea that technique trumps size may be more well known today, but this has always been the case. Go back 100 years and any great wrestler, boxer, Thai boxer, or Kung-Fu artist (Kung Fu was more legit back then before the mcdojoization) will destroy most untrained guys 50-100 lbs heavier than them.I love how everyone is analyzing this like a pro MMA fight.
What a bunch or tards.
Here's a news flash, back in the early MMA days there was no such thing as a "trained fighter". People boxed, or got in bar fights. The big dudes who could smash, regardless of having zero technique, would dominate the bar fights and boxers usually knew enough about fighting not to get into street brawls.
Gracie Jiu Jitsu basically introduced the world to a fighting system that was applicable and legitimate. When this video went down, everyone thought the Arnold's and Sylvester's of the world were the bad asses because they were built.
So what better way to prove the point of a fighting style than to challenge and defeat the epitome of hugeness that everyone thought was the pinnacle of self defense at the time?
Gracies are so sad, Bodybuilding is not a martial art and Mr. Utah is not an accolade lol
Plus that guy couldn't even block a hook. I'm pretty sure the jj guy could've boxed him to a submission.
1994 man. Tapes degrade. My old porn collection is virtually unwatchable now. I have to squint and stand on my head.
so it accomplished nothing other than to say trained fighter > untrained.
which we already knew.
i.e., nobody would have been surprised for a 145lb boxer to put him to bed with a big right hand
Gracies are so sad, Bodybuilding is not a martial art and Mr. Utah is not an accolade lol