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  1. Aegon Spengler Gold Belt

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    Hello Mayberry Earth-dwellers

    For those of you who are either religious or just plain creative, I got a question for ya.

    Let's assume for a second there is a God, (Yahweh) either a fictional one or a real one: what do you think God's motive in creating the universe was?

    There are a few ideas that spring to my mind:
    He was lonely
    He was curious
    He was bored
    It was an accident
    He wanted to impress his friends

    There's always the old "we can't comprehend why" as well. Which is fine, but let's try...

    What say you, Mayberritie Sherdenizens?
     
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    he sneezed?
     
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    He has certainly kicked a lot of ass so that makes sense
     
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    He didn't actually mean to.
     
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    Not saying I "believe" this necessarily, and I definitely don't think Yahweh or anything like it is what I'm talking about, but here's my model:

    "God" is a completely self-contained entity; not physically manifest, but in it containing the seed of all things that could be potentially manifest. A perfect being, timeless and complete- yet empty. Why empty? Because it cannot do anything but contemplate itself. There is no movement, no entropy, no creation, no destruction.
    The solution? Project itself into (abstract) space, and divide itself so that each part can interact with each other part. This is the beginning of creation, and it is also generating "information". Think of it like god is A...then divides itself into A1, A2. A1 and A2 interact to generate A3, etc. They all share a common essence, yet are different. This process continues indefinitely and eventually can become almost infinitely complex (like our Universe). This is also the beginning of 'time'. It would be silly to guess the ultimate purpose of this exercise, since our minds are far inferior to this hypothetical 'One', but my guess is that this is how it "grows", or evolves in it's own right.

    I could recommend you some interesting reads on the topic. Totally non-religious btw.
     
  9. ripskater Guest

    I don't know.

    But he loves us. We sinned and we could not have fellowship with God unless there was a sacrifice to wash away our sins. God cannot be in the presence of sin. He eventually sent his son, Jesus Christ to earth to be that ultimate sacrifice for us so that we can be in his presence once again. It now is up to us to repent of our sin, accept his sacrifice on the cross, so that we can have fellowship with him again. Just like we did when he walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
     
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    I believe in God, but one of the toughest things for me to fathom is how is it possible for God to have always been. Like who created God? Isn't there a beginning and ending to everything, where is God's beginning? and if someone created God then the question continues. Where is the start? How is it possible for something to have always been. ?
    And as far as your question i believe God created man/life because he could. He wanted children to watch ,grow and evolve. Very interesting topic imo.
     
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    We're his entertainment, his cable TV. When he's done with a hard day of doing the God-level work stuff, he likes to kick back and let his mind unwind with our shenanigans
     
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    something like this.

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    He lost a bet
     
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    God "cannot" be in the presence of sin? Unless his son is brutally executed?

    That's a jacked up set of rules God follows. Why would a omnipotent being have to follow a set of rules? And why would they be so perverse and murderous?
     
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    Basically this is it (according to most spiritual schools and texts). He wanted to be able to experience himself...his own glory. So he created pieces of himself (basically us), wiped our memories clean, and have us experience things. As we move up to higher densities, we get closer and closer to God, until finally, we merge back with him...return home. Each higher level is more beautiful then the previous one. There are 7 levels or densities in total. So the purpose of life is to experience basically, and to experience the glory of God, as we move higher and higher through each plain. So as we experience, God experiences too. And everything is God....my computer, my cell phone, my car, my key chain, the trees...everything. There is nothing that is not God. So God had to create versions of himself, and wipe their memories clean, in order to self experience.
     
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    Its not wise to follow rigid religious dogma like this. Think about what you are saying. God loves us, but demanded a human sacrifice?
     
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    Well, this IS ripskater you're talking to
     
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    The hardest thing to do is theorize about such things bc our only thought processes are from a human point of view. We say "He wanted to blah blah blah"....A being with the ability to always be, create, destroy, wouldn't be on a human wavelength, wouldn't think or act or have motivations like we do.
     
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    I like the way you're thinking here.
    I see God as a panendeistic/theistic entity. God is not just everything that is, was, and ever will be but also everything that could be. Perhaps creating from within God's own self an amorphous flowing from one version of reality to the next in infinite variation. Maybe the universe exists because it can and therefore must.

    I would be interested in some of that reading you mentioned. I've read Scott Adam's "God's Debris" and am looking to start MJ Adler's "How To Think About God" and
    Eagleman's "Sum."
    This is the "ultimate 747" argument. One of the responses I like best is that our perception/concept of time is very limited (almost assuredly true) and that creating a sequence of events into which an entity that is unaffected by time comes into existence (nature of which is also poorly understood) is futile in and of itself.

    Another, also related to alternate perception of time is that God exists because God came into being after developing to the point that God could create itself at an "Alpha" point (similar to John Connor sending Kyle Reese back in time so that he could be born.) This is a paradox, of course, but not without it's own merits. If we see our universe as both a thing AND as an event, time presents itself as having multiple natures, similar to double (or triple or whatever) slit.
     

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