giving up the back

[Skar71]

On purpose in order to prevent further striking damage, do you guys think this could be a common easy way out that fighters use when they feel they are beat? Last ufc prompted this debate

 

[Sakurabinette]

Yeah, Chael Sonnen talked about it on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Letting the other guy take your back and get the RNC is an easy way to quit without making it look like you're quitting.

 

[paoconno]

It really depends. While doing BJJ, if I was mounted I would sometimes give my back since I felt comfortable I could defend the choke and regain guard. It can be easier at times than trying to escape or sweep from mount. In MMA, giving up your back can be justified because A) You're both sweaty so it'll be harder for your opponent to keep back control. B) With the gloves on it's harder to finish chokes and C) You're tired of getting punched in the face from mount.

Obviously, the downside is if you're fighting high-level MMA, there's a good chance your opponent has world class BJJ, so giving up your back on purpose comes with a huge risk, but I wouldn't call it a straight "I give up" move. Now turtling up on the other hand...

 

[FinBJJ]

It really depends. While doing BJJ, if I was mounted I would sometimes give my back since I felt comfortable I could defend the choke and regain guard. It can be easier at times than trying to escape or sweep from mount. In MMA, giving up your back can be justified because A) You're both sweaty so it'll be harder for your opponent to keep back control. B) With the gloves on it's harder to finish chokes and C) You're tired of getting punched in the face from mount.

Obviously, the downside is if you're fighting high-level MMA, there's a good chance your opponent has world class BJJ, so giving up your back on purpose comes with a huge risk, but I wouldn't call it a straight "I give up" move. Now turtling up on the other hand...

You can't sweep if you're mounted.

 

[Shwartz]

I think it was Fabricio Werdum who said that giving up your back is like turning your back to the opponent when you're standing. Although I can't find the exact quote.

 

[SuperNerd]

It's common. Guys who are defeated often give up their backs to go out safely.

 

[giusti825]

After Jones threw the oblique kick at Rampage and started eyepoking, 'Page pretty much said "fuck this," and took the easy way out.

Its sad because it looked like Rampage was starting to get jones' timing down when Jones threw the kick. Rampage looked over at the ref, but there was no official rule against that, more like an unspoken code. But once Jones started with the eyepoking and the ref wasn't doing anything about it, Rampage was content to get out with his leg and eyesight intact.

 

[jamiesda]

You can't sweep if you're mounted.

.....yes you can

 

[Omni**]

Any recent examples? All I know is Thatch did it twice but it seems he did the instinctively and would work against most WWs, just not a LW that is quick. Dunno though

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

its a good way to save face and an arse whooping

 

[BisexualMMA]

Giving up the back is a very gay move.

 

[FinBJJ]

.....yes you can

No, you can't. It's called an escape or a reversal. You can only sweep from guard.

 

[HHJ]

some guys are very good at defending the RNC and switch to their back to encourage fighters to do that instead of hit them. Fedor did this to mark coleman when coleman mounted him,and it totally worked. Coleman tried to choke him,Fedor defended it,and escaped

 

[Jimmo1980]

Would rather see the punches coming in while mounted rather than give the back and not see em coming, also risking getting the back of my head and neck get punched in. Tough choice. Both shit. One slightly less shit than the other.

 

[Better Every Day]

You can't sweep if you're mounted.

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[Better Every Day]

No, you can't. It's called an escape or a reversal. You can only sweep from guard.

Perhaps wikipedia has it wrong, but it says:

"A sweep, when referred to in the context of ground fighting is a technique used to transition from a neutral or inferior position to a dominant position... hence the alternative term 'reversal' as the dominance of positions have been reversed."

Here, sweep and reversal don't seem to have separate meanings.

 

[FinBJJ]

Perhaps wikipedia has it wrong, but it says:

"A sweep, when referred to in the context of ground fighting is a technique used to transition from a neutral or inferior position to a dominant position... hence the alternative term 'reversal' as the dominance of positions have been reversed."

Here, sweep and reversal don't seem to have separate meanings.

In the context of BJJ rules you get points from sweeps, but anything that doesn't start from some sort of guard isn't considered a sweep.