give me any reason why Ronda isn't the Royce Gracie of WMMA

she's fighting terrible fighters.


she's the best of terrible fighters, doesn't make her good.


her striking is terrible, she was swinging hay makers at bethe, who ironically is even worse than Ronda.


She avoids her biggest threat because of a weight cut she knows Cyborg can't make.


Ronda has fought at 150, 145, 135 but refuses a catch weight at 140. Really? It's 5 pounds of water you don't have to cut.


If you're a fan of Ronda you're delusional

 

she doesn't wear a gi in her fights, doesn't fight multiple times in a one night tournament , and hasn't fought a guy that thought it was a good idea to wear 1 boxing glove in an mma fight.

 

She has better striking...

 

Royce won because he knew BJJ and his opponents didnt. Ronda wins because she's a superior fighter and athlete.

 

Whoa. That's deep.

 

Its threads like these that drag Sherdog down.

Everyones IQ is hurt by just reading this type of trash, people are actually blaming Ronda for being too legit for her competition ........ I'm fkin speechless.

 

Royce was fighting (mostly) professional fighters and not accountants and part timers.

 

Royce defeated bigger and better competition, he wasn't scared of fighting at a 60, 70, or 80 pound disadvantage, meanwhile Ronda is afraid to fight at 145

 

The difference between Bethe Correia and Art Jimmerson's BJJ is 2 years of training in favour of Bethe.

The difference between Bethe Correia and Art Jimmerson's striking is like 30 years of training in favour of Art.

True story.

 

I sometimes forget about that and then laugh every time I see it.

 

Cool story. Art still didnt even know what BJJ was.

 

I think most people DO consider her to be the Royce.

She and all the other women have the benefit of knowing what MMA is, unlike Royce and his competitors, but they're still in the early stages.

Ronda's striking isn't that bad, though. She was putting her lower body into her punches rather well.

 

Half of those competitors were scared of the cage, or Royce.

I bet Bethe goes in confident vs. Royce.

 

Ronda fights people that just spent a training camp preparing just for her techniques. Royce fought people who didn't even understand what he was trying to do. So I see a difference

 

She lacks the element of surprise.

 

Royce fought fighters 50pounds heavier than him

Ronda ducks Cyborg because of 5 pounds

 

Yes, but many of Ronda's opponents aren't even close to being considered professional fighters/athletes. Bethe Correia being of them. The first time Correia trained any martial art at all was 4 years ago.

At least Art Jimmerson spent his entire life training in a martial art.

 

She wont fight someone 10lbs heavier than her...
Royce was fighting guys 40 -50lbs heavier than him 3 times in one night..with mental rules about head-but's, groin strikes.
Royces opponents while maybe not strictly 'mma' fighter as we know them now were often World Champions in their own disciplines.
But once again fighters can only beat who is put in front of them. Its not RR fault she is so far ahead of the rest. It like blaming Jordan/Tiger/Schumacher/Messi/Phelps...etc for being too good and saying everyone else is kind of crap..you can only be the best at your time.

 

Came here to say this.

 

Ronda didn't fight this beast