Gi Players -- Countering a cross choke

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  1. sir037

    sir037 Forever Noob

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    Other than trying to buck them off before they lean in, is there any other escape?
     
  2. Big Red

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    I'm guessing you mean cross choke from mount? You have to be quick & this is probably poo advice but them leaning in gives you a great oppurtunity to roll them. I suppose from their guard keep your head high as it is diffucult to finish the cross choke from guard.
     
  3. Bubble Boy

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    I assume you're talking about when your opponent is gripping your collars with both hands, arms crossed, trying to choke.
    Take one of your arms and thread it over and then in between his arms and then put your hand on your own face (or forehead). Brace your palm on your forehead. Your opponent will have a very difficult time actually cross choking you. Really.
    The way it torques his arms kind of sets up a bridge and roll for you.

    Be careful though, 'cause dasteredly things could be waiting for you.
     
  4. Bama Zulu

    Bama Zulu Blue Belt

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    From mount:

    When they get the first collar, trap that arm by the tricep and wrist and upa roll in that direction.

    From their guard:
    - Trap arm with your neck
    - Simply posture up and keep your other shoulder away

    If they ever have the choke locked in, grab both their triceps and push in, this leaves a small window of opportunity to either rip one arm off or upa depending on what position they are in
     
  5. DMcKayBJJ

    DMcKayBJJ Blue Belt

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    Yeah, I usually feed my bent arm in between his forearms when he telegraphs the choke. I usually place my palm against my ear/side of head to brace it as he proceeds to bear down on my bent arm...no way he'll choke me that way.
    But yes you have to be ready for what your next move is once he transitions to something else.
     
  6. tommboy

    tommboy White Belt

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    pick up the telephone(do same thing you would and hold against head, they cant choke u out if u do this
     
  7. Bubble Boy

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    Actually bracing your palm the way you described it sounds better than my forehead version.

    As for the opponents next move I always worry about an armbar or omaplata, depending on positioning.
     
  8. DMcKayBJJ

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    Just read the original post again...and it seems like he's asking about getting cross-choked while the opponent is mounted on top of him.

    I'd agree with the other poster above. As he's going for the choke, 1 or both arms will eventually be committing to the choke, so depending on how soon he telegraphs it to you, you could trap 1 or both arms before he sinks the choke in deep and UPA his ass.

    Granted he can then keep going for it while you're in his guard, in which case you feed your arm through as described previously to stop the choke, then work your guardpassing game when he gives up on the choke.
     
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