Want to get here, as it looks in the far right photo. The problem is, every time I get a deep underhook and try to roll under, people just sprawl or sit real heavy. It pretty much kills it every time. I see the knee to chest thing happening here, I've tried that variant and it isn't really helping me, I could be missing something--truthfully, it feels like my knee slows my rolling under progress when I do that. Try to pass the cross face arm that I'm "pawing" over my head too, but that just tends to put them on defensive and they sprawl, fight like hell to get position back. There's some discussion on this in the "Greatest Half Guard" thread, but nothing in there really jumped out at me. Anybody got any tips or variations or guesses on how to better get to this spot? I feel good at mid to deep range, but I really want to start getting some super-deep half going.