Getting caught here

[shs101]

The coach at my gym is a real good advocate of setting up hard hooks to the body and placing them right ( around or under elbows ) and it works very well for me but at the same time my sparring partners he also trains throw very hard punches to the body. I told my coach and he said to just block them with your arms. It seems he has very good offense for it but not much to say defensively.... And note when I say guys in my gym throw hard hooks to the body I mean HARD. I figured id come here because I know there's a lot of smart people on the forum and have a better and more articulate way of explaining things. So what do you people have for me here?

 

[SelfSufficient]

Are you training mma or strictly boxing? Also what is your height/reach and what kind of striking style (How is your footwork, what type of guard do you use, etc.) are you most comfortable with?

 

[TheFinerDetails]

I've been dropped by a few good body shots in sparring, you might think they're hitting harder than they are. I've been tapped in the right spot before and it leveled me. Sounds like you're winging your elbows. It's a good reminder to pull them in when it keeps happening .
Also, you have a high guard this can happen a lot. Try to get your reactions to body shots better or you can also "c" your body or "dig" into the ground more (sorry I can't elaborate, probably best left to someone smarter )

 

[shs101]

Sorry for lack of information.... this is for boxing purposes... I'm 5'11 id say id have good height and a decent reach. I just need better tactics against a guy who goes to the body a lot.

 

[Kanka]

keep your elbow in

 

[Fire of Youth]

Are you dropping into your defences? Softly bounce down at the knees to compact your self to protect against those body shots and then use the bounce up to launch your own body shots.

 

[Sinister]

Most people when they just say to use your elbows, don't tell you that you need to turn and angle your body so your elbow is actually in the way of the punch. If you find those drill videos I posted for the inside drills, you see my students shift to accomplish this. It's not enough that the elbow is just at your side and stationary, you need to move so they end up in the path of the punch, without compromising your own balance or positioning.

 

[shs101]

Most people when they just say to use your elbows, don't tell you that you need to turn and angle your body so your elbow is actually in the way of the punch. If you find those drill videos I posted for the inside drills, you see my students shift to accomplish this. It's not enough that the elbow is just at your side and stationary, you need to move so they end up in the path of the punch, without compromising your own balance or positioning.

Care to show me one of them videos? It'd help greatly....because whatever you're talking about with rotating is definetly what I'm not doing.

 

[Sinister]

Search function.

Most of them are in the first positioning threads I did.

 

[killedsirius]

http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/f11/infighting-2741537/index4.html

 

[shs101]

Search function.

Most of them are in the first positioning threads I did.

I re watched the head positioning drill but didn't see any shift to defend a body punch. And by shift do you mean "tile" exercise type shift? I thought at first you ment turn your upper body so the body punch actually hits your arm.

 

[Discipulus]

I re watched the head positioning drill but didn't see any shift to defend a body punch. And by shift do you mean "tile" exercise type shift? I thought at first you ment turn your upper body so the body punch actually hits your arm.

The tile exercise incorporates a twist as well as a bend. You want to bend your knees a little, fold your hip a little, and turn your shoulders a little, all bringing the point of the elbow right into the path of the punch.

 

[Sinister]

I re watched the head positioning drill but didn't see any shift to defend a body punch. And by shift do you mean "tile" exercise type shift? I thought at first you ment turn your upper body so the body punch actually hits your arm.

Inside drills, not head-positioning drill.

 

[shs101]

Inside drills, not head-positioning drill.

The tile exercise incorporates a twist as well as a bend. You want to bend your knees a little, fold your hip a little, and turn your shoulders a little, all bringing the point of the elbow right into the path of the punch.

I watched the proper video now lol with searching through the thread. I see what you mean. So pretty much you're really just trying to bring your elbow arm TO the punch without compromising your own position? See the way I was taught (I'm sure most others too) was to just drop your elbow, or even dip your whole body sideways. Obviously wrong...

Crazy, such a fundamental skill-blocking a body punch and it's taught incorrect almost everywhere.

 

[Sinister]

Well, like I said I don't like to undermine other trainers. But it's either you were taught how to fight on the inside or you weren't. If you weren't, there's nothing wholly wrong with that as long as a person admits it. For a long time I didn't know, trainers would just shout shit like "work in there" or "cover up"...or something of that sort.

 

[aries]

For body hooks you turn into the punch with your elbow (rotate out to meet it) whilst at the same time crunching that side of the body with a slight drop of the knees. For straights it's just the reverse as you rotate in. Just don't get into any bad habits of dropping your guard hand too low, that's why the body crunch and knee bend are really important. They allow you to still maintain some high cover for your jaw in case your opponent feints you low and goes high or doubles up with the second up top.