Germany expecting 800,000 migrants this year!

[Rod1]

Try make a deal for some of these refugees as cheap labor to the elites of one of the quickly developing countries like India or China, so they can use them to depress wages in those countries further. Or offer the females an opportunity to go to China. They have a shortage of them. They can start anew there.

Either that or shut the borders already. Why is the EU leadership allowing this? Do they really hate other Europeans? Assuming the EU is being run by other Europeans.

Its not a bad idea. Latin America could certainly do its part and take some of them, we have a good record of absorbing different types of people.

 

[Rod1]

Come on, why use the world for any other reason than saying they are responsible for problems in Africa and the ME?

And making their economy better so they won't have the incentive to migrate to europe, that's pretty close to impossible.

So why dont you read what i wrote?

 

[Vitamin C]

Lebanon was fucked up real bad when they received a massive influx of immigrants after Israel fucked up everyone in the region. Its certainly an example of what could happen to a country.

It could be an omen or it could be a lesson, refugees are certainly something to be wary of.

As of WW3? nah, thats just crazy talk.

I did say I feel crazy just thinking it.
I just can't help going to mental places like doomsday preppers as this just gets more and more intense. There was already lots of tension around muslim populations in the UK and other areas of Europe in the last decade, and this seems like it's just so much more it's hard to not see it as a big pile of tinder waiting for a match.
I'm glad to be relatively (pretty well entirely) insulated here in Canada.

 

[Bald1]

Lebanon was fucked up real bad when they received a massive influx of immigrants after Israel fucked up everyone in the region. Its certainly an example of what could happen to a country.

It could be an omen or it could be a lesson, refugees are certainly something to be wary of.

As of WW3? nah, thats just crazy talk.

WW3 no. But there's an increase in nationalistic movements in Europe that will inevitably lead to clashes between immigrants and those "racist pigs" who want to keep their culture as is.

 

[Titus002]

But who is the 'International Oligarchy'? and what ties them together?

That is what I never get answer to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

 

[2GunTommy]

This makes me really question if IDL is truly crazy. It just makes no sense, but at the same time, I have to think it does to someone, and that they must benefit somehow. It boggles my mind.

God your smart and completely right. I said something similar before and got laughed at by some posters.

I had a professor tell me that early socialists were against mass immigration since it was a tactic used by the 'capitalist' to undermine the native populace and then play the populations against one another. Underpay the migrants, and feed off the differences in culture, then break down the unity of the people.

But the way you put it is 100x better said.



Exactly what I was thinking. It seems lately more and more of what IDL claims is happening is happening. I image Sweden's response will be to let in a similar # of migrants which is even more absurd considering Germany has 80 million people and Sweden has only like 9.5 million.

More crazy is how Merkel is saying 'no tolerance of hate for migrants'.. Its not hate the population is literally being shafted.

Good to see that some are open minded. Im not sure why IDL catches so much flack sometimes. If you just look throughout history much of what he says can be corroborated.

 

[Jack V Savage]

I don't think it's overly simplistic to think that 800k immigrants is going to fuck up German democratic socialism ... what's left of it.

It might or it might not. Depends how it's managed (and on chance and the existing system, etc.). The idea that there are these iron laws of society that govern how nations evolve (even given particular changes) is what is simplistic.

Incidentally, how democratic can it be when these alleged democratic socialists have no right to control immigration policy? Even regarding the specific issue at hand, the 'democratic' fiction is already tissue-thin.

Don't know enough about that particular issue to comment.

But I'm sure it's not representative of any trend or social changes. How could mass demographic change cause social or political changes? Inconceivable to me. It shouldn't -- from an ethical perspective -- so it won't, and even if it does, we aren't to blame.

They could cause social or political changes. If so, the same demographic change isn't going to cause the same social or political change in all cases. The world is a lot more complicated than that.

I'd like to be clear on this.

(a) The Germans are guilty.
(b) They must atone.

This kind of response just indicates that petulance and your own hangups are affecting your analysis.

 

[goldennirvana]

Maybe the end of western europe. There's a large divide between the west and former Warsaw pact Europe in how they handle migrants from foreign cultures.

Eastern and central Europeans don't seems to be as tolerant. It could be that hundreds of years of dealing with steppe nomads, Mongols and the Ottoman Empire is still taught in schools there.

The invaders from the West will just flood into the East. This is the end of Western civilization. That's not an overreaction. It's really happening, before your very eyes, in your lifetime. And if you express any caution, you are a racist.

 

[evansusmc2]

Just came from Germany a couple weeks ago.

I asked about the crazy immigration in Germany lately. A good friend of mine who is German and around 65 years old had this to say:

"Germans are getting too old nowdays. German women just don't want to be bothered with the burden of carrying and raising a child."

 

[__Big_D__]

lol ethnocentrism and racism are not the same thing, hence no "/" is appropriate.
stop trying to sound so smart, Jack.
you're just a kid from a middle class family.

Geez, this guy.

Should you be playing catch with your kid, or going out for dinner with you wife?.. Nvm lol

 

[Pem123]

Bernie speaks to this right at the beginning of this video.
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LOL, all GOP candinate has talk about is building a wall to secure border and Bernie said right wing love idea of open border.

more reason not to support him.

 

[thx113x]

Disgusting. I'm sorry but Europe can't help everyone. It pisses me off how my homeland where my ancestors came from is essentially being invaded by Muslims. They need to put a stop to the flow of illegal migrants NOW. Nothing pisses me off as much quite like this issue. I wish there was something I could do.

 

[Graves The Elder]

Geez, this guy. I've been perversely obsessed with him for a long time. I send him repetitively inane PMs, I harass him in any thread I find him and still he won't acknowledge me as anything less than a scum sucking queer.

sorry, bro.
stop stalking me.

 

[sir loin]

Yeah, the irony is that cries of 'racism' are used to justify the practice of allowing unrestricted immigration against the populace's will, and then when it ends in a clusterfuck, this too will be blamed on 'racism.' You are racist if you don't allow this to happen, and then when it ends in disaster, that's because you were just too racist to let it work. You should repent.

Here again we see ideology that should appeal to ripskater and other Christians ... if it doesn't work out, it's because you were just too sinful, that's why God punished you, next time cleanse your heart even more and double-down on your righteousness, then God will reward you for following His Human Rights Laws. Meanwhile, the priesthood is chortling.

against populace will?

so, umm, it should be very easy for somebody who is opposed to this to run and win election on this platform and change things

oh wait media conspiracy something

 

[sir loin]

LOL, all GOP candinate has talk about is building a wall to secure border and Bernie said right wing love idea of open border.

more reason not to support him.

are you simple

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Japan is too far away from the refugees and its a country that quite simply doesnt gives a fuck about anything outside of its borders.

If you are asking for western compassion to disappear? im sorry but its not, with pictures like

It would be far easier if Europe had stable buffer states that could receive immigrants, like if they took over Libya.

The notion that old dead white man from England are 'gods' of western civilization and that 'compassion' is what built us up is something I reject. A moderate healthy dose of compassion is necessary but our nations and people must come first. Europe won't exist if it continues at its self destructive pace.

What else should we do? give into the American way by bombing Syria or what? I suggest sending some aide and taking in a small number of refugees but NOT 800,000. How about a few hundred girls who are being saved from daily gangrape?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDLyKSYRqXM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

I will admit that is a very powerful video. Shame though that it is touting up Hitler as a 'savior'. Jews are the good guys

 

[Tsar]

Honestly it's an unprecedented disaster. A catastrophic collapse of the nation state, and one of the most amazing anti-democratic fiascoes of our era. In almost every European state, the populace is strongly opposed to mass non-European immigration from outside the EU. Not one will be given a choice, however.

These people are never leaving. They will impose devastating social costs and severely aggravate German domestic politics for decades. I don't see how they will avoid straight-up Americanizing now. Who knows, maybe Germerica will be better than the old system.

i don;t know that it is a disaster, and i dont know that this projection somehow represents the catastrophic collapse of the nation state.

your comment that the development is anti-democratic is interesting. there is absolutely a great deal of tension between economic systems and democratic systems. somehow economic systemic needs seem to prevail over popular politics the world over.

i'm not sure that your comments about social costs are correct--most of europe is declining in terms of population and national economies benefit from legal and illegal immigration--but immigration does bring complications. but if immigration were not economically benefical it would be attacked all the more.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

LOL, all GOP candinate has talk about is building a wall to secure border and Bernie said right wing love idea of open border.

more reason not to support him.

The right care about illegal immigration to the same degree they care about gay marriage; they don't. It's a distraction for them. They won't get a wall built and their other policies

Look up TiSA, it's one of the 3 major secret Trade Treaties Obama is pushing and the GOP supports. There is language in their that addresses immigration, which our trade agreements are not supposed to deal with.

 

[sir loin]

major secret Trade Treaties

oh my

 

[therealdope]

Has anyone suggested Germany build a "wall" and "internment camps" yet?

But seriously, migration (or whatever term you prefer) of people from poor countries to rich countries is a huge problem. And I don't think I've ever heard of one good suggestion. I mean seriously, what do you do? Shoot everyone at the border? Do you take everyone in? What do you do?