Germany expecting 800,000 migrants this year!

[Zankou]

I don't think it's overly simplistic to think that 800k immigrants is going to fuck up German democratic socialism ... what's left of it. Incidentally, how democratic can it be when these alleged democratic socialists have no right to control immigration policy? Even regarding the specific issue at hand, the 'democratic' fiction is already tissue-thin.

Look at how Germany reacted to Greece. How do you expect Germans to respond to funding an enormous immigrant population in their own borders? And how well has Germany ever succeeded at integrating such populations?

Look at the startling recent rise of the right in Europe. Yay! For the first time ever this week, Sweden's polls are led by a nationalist party (mainstream, but still nationalist). Y'all may have missed it.

http://www.thelocal.se/20150820/swedens-nationalists-lead-polls-for-first-time

But I'm sure it's not representative of any trend or social changes. How could mass demographic change cause social or political changes? Inconceivable to me. It shouldn't -- from an ethical perspective -- so it won't, and even if it does, we aren't to blame.

 

[Bald1]

I hope you all realise you are currently witnessing the end of Europe. Also, you are witnessing the total destruction of the Middle-East. That's what is happening to both these regions of the world right now - their deaths. The traditional Europe & Middle-East that you think of, will not exist in 50 years time. The Middle-East's heritage is currently being wiped off the face of planet by ISIS (we can only guess who trained them & financially backs them) and Europe is being destroyed by mass immigration (legal & illegal).

Now the question is... who's responsible for this mess? IDL... any guesses? Rhetorical question. We both know who's behind it.

Maybe the end of western europe. There's a large divide between the west and former Warsaw pact Europe in how they handle migrants from foreign cultures.

Eastern and central Europeans don't seems to be as tolerant. It could be that hundreds of years of dealing with steppe nomads, Mongols and the Ottoman Empire is still taught in schools there.

 

[Pem123]

So whats the cause of all of this?

European decolonization was off by about 50-100 years, sadly the only way around this seems to be for europeans to directly take control of former colonies and improve the life there.

LOL, response like this is predictable,

how much Migrant has Japan take in this year ?

 

[Graves The Elder]

lol ethnocentrism and racism are not the same thing, hence no "/" is appropriate.
stop trying to sound so smart, Jack.
you're just a kid from a middle class family.

 

[Pem123]

Oh I agree. Too much compassion and your people will cease to exist. History is filled with these instances.

All I am saying is that I reject the idea that current day Germans should feel guilty for what Adolf did or that they should feel guilty of the German Empire. It is not their responsibility to go 'uplift' the struggling nations. Especially when German itself has its own problems and their are Germans who need help.

exactly, plus getting their ass kicked twice in world war its a good enough payback.

 

[Zankou]

LOL, response like this is predictable,

how much Migrant has Japan take in this year ?

I'd like to be clear on this.

(a) The Germans are guilty.
(b) They must atone.

Now, you might find it odd that Germans are atoning for something that they don't seem to have anything to do with. In fact they fiercely opposed the wars in the Middle East, and didn't colonize the regions in question. But that's the true beauty of 'whiteness' --- like the force of gravity, it is able to impose guilt at incredible distance, along with forcing a corresponding repentance. Really a miracle, when you think about it. Strangely, tho, the reverse proposition doesn't work at all.

 

[Graves The Elder]

you're just a kid from a middle class family.

and who never went to college and works at Rocco's Italian Bistro..
and spends too much time on the internet.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

I can't believe the racism charge still means anything but it does.

Just like the US, refugees come with federal money for the resettlement contractors and they are a predictable voting block. Elites and liberals don't mind growing our welfare population even if it mewns importing people to do so.

What does your screen name mean? Only the south pole is south of the Andes, right?

Ha for most part yeah. But there are regions that are on the foot/plains of the Andes and you could say they are 'south'. Regardless it is a part of the world I find to be beautiful. With that said I'd argue that Chile, Uruguay, and Argentina are slices of heaven whose secret has thankfully not gotten out yet.

exactly, plus getting their ass kicked twice in world war its a good enough payback.

That's what I am saying. Plus the villains in films are always Germans and there are always war movies to bash on Germans/Celebrate the murder of Germans.

I'd like to be clear on this.

(a) The Germans are guilty.
(b) They must atone.

Now, you might find it odd that Germans are atoning for something that they don't seem to have anything to do with. In fact they fiercely opposed the wars in the Middle East, and didn't colonize the regions in question. But that's the true beauty of 'whiteness' --- like the force of gravity, it is able to impose guilt at incredible distance, along with forcing a corresponding repentance. Really a miracle, when you think about it. Strangely, tho, the reverse proposition doesn't work at all.

Of all European peoples and light skin Caucasians. Germanic people get it the worst. They are always the ones negatively portrayed and 'hated' on for having been Hitlers 'Aryan race'.

I don't notice the same degree of self doubt and shame present in Spaniards, Greeks or other European people. Perhaps because they were never viewed as 'white' by the Germanic peoples? Perhaps they were only viewed as Europeans?

 

[Anung Un Rama]

It's all very progressive. It will help to erode all sense of nations and peoples which is the EU dream.

Just a big mass of servants to the superstate.

The natives will understandably push back a bit, but the weight of the establishment will silence them the best they can, or steer their energy into something fruitless, all the while programming their children to embrace it in the school system.

And when it inevitably collapses, the power grab by the moneymen will be enormous.

Bernie speaks to this right at the beginning of this video.
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[Rod1]

LOL, response like this is predictable,

how much Migrant has Japan take in this year ?

Japan is too far away from the refugees and its a country that quite simply doesnt gives a fuck about anything outside of its borders.

If you are asking for western compassion to disappear? im sorry but its not, with pictures like

It would be far easier if Europe had stable buffer states that could receive immigrants, like if they took over Libya.

 

[Rod1]

Stop with the nonsense about colonization, Sweden and Germany aren't the European countries that come to mind when u think of colonies in Africa anyways. Should spain be responsible for poor Mexicans and central Americans crossing into the US?

They are headed for countries with generous welfare programs who dont yet turn the boats around. Thats why Australia was a top pick (until they turned around the boats) and thats why refugees pass through countries to get to the US, Canada, the UK, Germany

Put up a fence like israel did and send people to Rwanda like they did and turn the boats around like Australia does or it will never end. Africas population is set to grow by billions this century, how many can Europe take?

So you read colonization and came with a response that has absolutely nothing to do with what i said?

 

[Vitamin C]

I'm becoming convinced, in my own crazy mind, that this is going to be the precipitant of WWIII.

How can you deal with migrant population like that when they inevitably start to riot fuck up your social order? We already have refugee camps throughout Europe. They will become ghettos if they aren't already, and there will be concentration camps no doubt once this all kicks off. I don't mean death camps either, but how are you supposed to wage a war when for a decade your population has been swelling with those you go to war with?

I'm on the verge of joining the military. I want to be trained and adapted to the system before it all kicks off. Just look at the recent centuries and the periods of time without major scale war. We're overdue I would think, and with how small the world has gotten, the next major war is sure to be global. There are still many men alive today that remember conscription, and I think we'd be fools to think it can't happen again.

/crazyrant

But in all seriousness, I've grown up as a fairly liberal guy. Never been (or had opportunity to be I guess) racist, and I still really don't care what colour a persons skin is, but all this shit has made me far more nationalist and extremely, what, I guess culturalist. Anyone who migrates to a decent western country and advocates for sharia law or some other backwards ass shit can go suck a finicky shotgun.

 

[MadSquabbles500]

Try make a deal for some of these refugees as cheap labor to the elites of one of the quickly developing countries like India or China, so they can use them to depress wages in those countries further. Or offer the females an opportunity to go to China. They have a shortage of them. They can start anew there.

Either that or shut the borders already. Why is the EU leadership allowing this? Do they really hate other Europeans? Assuming the EU is being run by other Europeans.

 

[IDL]

Bernie speaks to this right at the beginning of this video.

A generally agree with him there. I find he is very partisan which overlooks an entire half of the puzzle (the left has been instrumental as much as the right), but that is understandable considering he is trying to court left leaning people.

 

[Rod1]

I'm becoming convinced, in my own crazy mind, that this is going to be the precipitant of WWIII.

How can you deal with migrant population like that when they inevitably start to riot fuck up your social order? We already have refugee camps throughout Europe. They will become ghettos if they aren't already, and there will be concentration camps no doubt once this all kicks off. I don't mean death camps either, but how are you supposed to wage a war when for a decade your population has been swelling with those you go to war with?

I'm on the verge of joining the military. I want to be trained and adapted to the system before it all kicks off. Just look at the recent centuries and the periods of time without major scale war. We're overdue I would think, and with how small the world has gotten, the next major war is sure to be global. There are still many men alive today that remember conscription, and I think we'd be fools to think it can't happen again.

/crazyrant

But in all seriousness, I've grown up as a fairly liberal guy. Never been (or had opportunity to be I guess) racist, and I still really don't care what colour a persons skin is, but all this shit has made me far more nationalist and extremely, what, I guess culturalist. Anyone who migrates to a decent western country and advocates for sharia law or some other backwards ass shit can go suck a finicky shotgun.

Lebanon was fucked up real bad when they received a massive influx of immigrants after Israel fucked up everyone in the region. Its certainly an example of what could happen to a country.

It could be an omen or it could be a lesson, refugees are certainly something to be wary of.

As of WW3? nah, thats just crazy talk.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Ha for most part yeah. But there are regions that are on the foot/plains of the Andes and you could say they are 'south'. Regardless it is a part of the world I find to be beautiful. With that said I'd argue that Chile, Uruguay, and Argentina are slices of heaven whose secret has thankfully not gotten out yet.

Mendoza is something special.

 

[clmetal]

So you read colonization and came with a response that has absolutely nothing to do with what i said?

Come on, why use the world for any other reason than saying they are responsible for problems in Africa and the ME?

And making their economy better so they won't have the incentive to migrate to europe, that's pretty close to impossible.

 

[IDL]

Try make a deal for some of these refugees as cheap labor to the elites of one of the quickly developing countries like India or China, so they can use them to depress wages in those countries further. Or offer the females an opportunity to go to China. They have a shortage of them. They can start anew there.

Either that or shut the borders already. Why is the EU leadership allowing this? Do they really hate other Europeans? Assuming the EU is being run by other Europeans.

Selling cheap labor to China and India would be like selling ice to an Eskimo. Maybe that is something trump could try while he is getting Mexico to build that fence :icon_lol:

EU leaders are not loyal to the European peoples.

 

[clmetal]

Ha for most part yeah. But there are regions that are on the foot/plains of the Andes and you could say they are 'south'. Regardless it is a part of the world I find to be beautiful. With that said I'd argue that Chile, Uruguay, and Argentina are slices of heaven whose secret has thankfully not gotten out yet.

That's what I am saying. Plus the villains in films are always Germans and there are always war movies to bash on Germans/Celebrate the murder of Germans.



Of all European peoples and light skin Caucasians. Germanic people get it the worst. They are always the ones negatively portrayed and 'hated' on for having been Hitlers 'Aryan race'.

I don't notice the same degree of self doubt and shame present in Spaniards, Greeks or other European people. Perhaps because they were never viewed as 'white' by the Germanic peoples? Perhaps they were only viewed as Europeans?

I love the Conosur especially Uruguay. You dont live there though, right?

 

[Anung Un Rama]

A generally agree with him there. I find he is very partisan which overlooks an entire half of the puzzle (the left has been instrumental as much as the right), but that is understandable considering he is trying to court left leaning people.

I knew you would agree/ disagree, which is fine because I know where you're coming from. I think this coming from a guy on the American left lends a lot of credence to what you and Zank have said.