Germany expecting 800,000 migrants this year!

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  1. squeezewax

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    Incredible number!
    At the moment the ones already there are putting up tents anywhere they can, including in the middle of cities wherever there is grass.
    That amount of people will put such a strain on Germany or whichever country takes in huge numbers of refugees.
    There were protests in Germany today. In Hungary razor wire and fences are being put up to try to stop this migration into the country. There was some violence there too.
    Are a large majority or all of the migrants going to be given German citizenship? It's not as if they can be sent back.
    The people still 'back in the home countries' now know how to get citizenship. Yes it can be a scary and dangerous experience, but at the end there is possibly a pot of gold for the people that make it to a new country.

    Australia has been asked a couple of times now to accept some refugees, but the answer so far is NO!
     
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    Sweden must be so jealous...
     
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    Honestly it's an unprecedented disaster. A catastrophic collapse of the nation state, and one of the most amazing anti-democratic fiascoes of our era. In almost every European state, the populace is strongly opposed to mass non-European immigration from outside the EU. Not one will be given a choice, however.

    These people are never leaving. They will impose devastating social costs and severely aggravate German domestic politics for decades. I don't see how they will avoid straight-up Americanizing now. Who knows, maybe Germerica will be better than the old system.
     
  7. It is like they want mass chaos to happen. DESPITE the overwhelming majority of the populace being against this. I suppose the news media can always go back to their propaganda campaign of labeling people 'racist' for disagreeing.
     
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    Yeah, the irony is that cries of 'racism' are used to justify the practice of allowing unrestricted immigration against the populace's will, and then when it ends in a clusterfuck, this too will be blamed on 'racism.' You are racist if you don't allow this to happen, and then when it ends in disaster, that's because you were just too racist to let it work. You should repent.

    Here again we see ideology that should appeal to ripskater and other Christians ... if it doesn't work out, it's because you were just too sinful, that's why God punished you, next time cleanse your heart even more and double-down on your righteousness, then God will reward you for following His Human Rights Laws. Meanwhile, the priesthood is chortling.
     
  9. What is most crazy is how people will be labeled as 'racist' for opposing this. Got to get that white guilt while its hot.

    Curious question Zankou what do you mean by 'Americanize'? Is that a reference towards the potential trade deal (transatlantic) or a reference to how America has a diverse non-homogeneous population?
     
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    Zankou Muscle and Hate Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    It's a reference to the decrease in social solidarity that empirically follows radically increased demographic diversity, leading to decreased support for socialism and the increased use of American-style capitalism, punishing the losers and throwing mountains of money at the winners.

    This is predictable as the sun rising, but the counter-argument is that it's evil and shouldn't happen, so we should pretend that it won't happen, and that any concerns about it happening are by definition illegitimate, since they are premised on evil.

    Btw I love America and all, so it's not necessarily the worst thing if that happens to Germany ... but I also love Germany, and it's sad to see it go down this path and collapse before globalism, becoming just another node in the unrestricted market. There should be room for relatively homogeneous socialist nations, and diverse capitalist nations, but it seems only the latter are allowed nowadays.
     
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    It's all very progressive. It will help to erode all sense of nations and peoples which is the EU dream.

    Just a big mass of servants to the superstate.

    The natives will understandably push back a bit, but the weight of the establishment will silence them the best they can, or steer their energy into something fruitless, all the while programming their children to embrace it in the school system.

    And when it inevitably collapses, the power grab by the moneymen will be enormous.
     
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    This makes me really question if IDL is truly crazy. It just makes no sense, but at the same time, I have to think it does to someone, and that they must benefit somehow. It boggles my mind.
     
  13. God your smart and completely right. I said something similar before and got laughed at by some posters.

    I had a professor tell me that early socialists were against mass immigration since it was a tactic used by the 'capitalist' to undermine the native populace and then play the populations against one another. Underpay the migrants, and feed off the differences in culture, then break down the unity of the people.

    But the way you put it is 100x better said.

    Exactly what I was thinking. It seems lately more and more of what IDL claims is happening is happening. I image Sweden's response will be to let in a similar # of migrants which is even more absurd considering Germany has 80 million people and Sweden has only like 9.5 million.

    More crazy is how Merkel is saying 'no tolerance of hate for migrants'.. Its not hate the population is literally being shafted.
     
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    Is this the thread where we freak out about how developed nations aren't reproducing fast enough and that will be their down fall because the population will plateau or the one where a developed countries population is rising and that will be their downfall.
     
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    It makes perfect sense to those trying to collapse the Western system in order to bring in a more totalitarian one.

    The more chaos the better to destabilize and overload the system.

    The Native European birth rates must be kept low at all cost, and immigration must come in very fast.
     
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    So whats the cause of all of this?

    European decolonization was off by about 50-100 years, sadly the only way around this seems to be for europeans to directly take control of former colonies and improve the life there.
     
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    I seriously doubt it.
     
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    The part that really sucks is how unprincipled and irrational it is. It's certainly admirable to scoop up refugees and give them a better life, and I don't for an instant begrudge the refugees for making the trip. I'd do the same in their shoes. Yet the public discourse is so thoroughly controlled that what would seem like relatively reasonable statements from the citizens of Germany and Italy -- 'hey, maybe we should limit the number of people we take in' -- or 'hey, maybe we should take in refugees from OTHER parts of the world instead of just pipelining large factions that will form intractable blocks -- are condemned. And because there's no real rational counter-argument to support that condemnation, it inevitably takes the form of prosecuting the objecter for racism, war crimes, and human rights violations, for a criminal cannot be allowed to speak.

    This is why you are tagged as 'hateful' if you oppose unlimited immigration. You can then be deprived of any voice in the debate (we should not, after all, consider hateful and evil voices). The masses can be allowed the illusion of democracy ... as long as they don't make evil choices, that is. 3/4 of Germans and 3/4 of Italians oppose unlimited immigration from outside the EU ... but since that is evil, their will is irrelevant.
     
  19. Yeah that oddly enough makes sense. The excuse for non-European immigration is usually one of the following.

    1) We have low birth rates so we NEED immigrants BUT not just any immigrants we NEED low skilled immigrants from OUTSIDE of Europe, NAMELY countries that have cultures way different than ours which can clash with ours!

    2) We are too white and boring and we need non-Europeans (preferably) Arab Muslims, and Black Muslims. Never mind Arab Christians

    It should not be the current German peoples responsibility to 'improve' those nations. Holding people accountable for things they did not do promotes shame which is a leading cause of suicide and depression. We should seek to limit the promotion of 'shame' in people who are undeserving of it.

    Shame is an emotion that far too many people carry around and it ruins lives.
     
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    It's a competition in Europe on who gets to be more of an SJW. Sweden is not going to take this lying down.

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