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Did you forget him crying tears of joy at a far right white nationalism rally in Poland, which lead to this?




Don't forget Frozen! That's like the tip of the iceberg. The guy isobsessed with women being evil and nefarious creatures, the root of all evil. And I mean OBSESSED, he has like hundreds tweets rambling on about women's sexuality, their eggs and their fertility.

Stuff like this, it's pathetic:
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Listen to this diatribe as well. The man is psychotic.

This farmer brown guy is such a clown. Imagine pulling out the "OMG anyone who disagrees with the left isnt a fascist!!!" card over Stefan fucking Molyneux, a literal white supremacist.

So if you can't call a guy that advocates for ethnic cleansing, white-replacement conspiracies and scientific racism a fascist, who the fuck is? Do you have to be goose stepping down main street in an SS outfit while screaming "IM A FASCIST!" to be fairly called a fascist?

Also, thanks @Farmer Br0wn for clearly outing yourself as a follower of Stefan Molyneux and by default outing yourself as a neo-nazi fascist! It will be good to have that knowledge about you going forward.
 
This farmer brown guy is such a clown. Imagine pulling out the "OMG anyone who disagrees with the left isnt a fascist!!!" card over Stefan fucking Molyneux, a literal white supremacist.

So if you can't call a guy that advocates for ethnic cleansing, white-replacement conspiracies and scientific racism a fascist, who the fuck is? Do you have to be goose stepping down main street in an SS outfit while screaming "IM A FASCIST!" to be fairly called a fascist?

Also, thanks @Farmer Br0wn for clearly outing yourself as a follower of Stefan Molyneux and by default outing yourself as a neo-nazi fascist! It will be good to have that knowledge about you going forward.
I don't know about Farmer Brown being a neo-nazi facist, but Stefan Molyneux is a dangerous, pseudoscientific psychopath with a god complex.
 
I don't know about Farmer Brown being a neo-nazi facist, but Stefan Molyneux is a dangerous, pseudoscientific psychopath with a god complex.

If you express support for a neo-nazi philosopher and enjoy his works, chances are you're a neo-nazi. Farmer Brown was clearly running to the defense of Stefan and portrayed his views as the "exact opposite" of fascism. Clearly he's a supporter.
 
We tend to think of Western Europe as being a free society but really only the US has true freedom of speech, because we can say whatever we want and burn what ever symbolism we want and not be charged with a Hate crime. Europe and Canada is emulating aspects of the MiddleEast, South Asia and the Far East with these curbs on freedom of speech.

Even our First Amendment has limitations, we can't incite or slander among other things.
 
If you express support for a neo-nazi philosopher and enjoy his works, chances are you're a neo-nazi. Farmer Brown was clearly running to the defense of Stefan and portrayed his views as the "exact opposite" of fascism. Clearly he's a supporter.
That's a sorta guilt by association thing. It's possible to like parts without the whole, and Molyneux has plenty of bullshit out there to hook people with. None of it is very pretty though and there's no doubt that Molyneux himself is a white nationalist, as well as a women hater in the literal sense.
 
That's a sorta guilt by association thing. It's possible to like parts without the whole, and Molyneux has plenty of bullshit out there to hook people with. None of it is very pretty though and there's no doubt that Molyneux himself is a white nationalist, as well as a women hater in the literal sense.
I mean, that's being very generous of you.

When you have sympathies for ethno-nationalist pseudointellectual youtube personalities, chances are you're a white nationalist.

It's analogous to saying "you know Hitler had some great ideas! I don't agree with X and Y that he did, but I think he was right about a lot of stuff!" Expressing support for fascists makes you a fascist. I don't think guilt by association is accurate. Guilt by association would be like calling someone a fascist for appearing on a panel alongside Stefan while not voicing support for his ideas.
 
I mean, that's being very generous of you.

When you have sympathies for ethno-nationalist pseudointellectual youtube personalities, chances are you're a white nationalist.

It's analogous to saying "you know Hitler had some great ideas! I don't agree with X and Y that he did, but I think he was right about a lot of stuff!" Expressing support for fascists makes you a fascist. I don't think guilt by association is accurate. Guilt by association would be like calling someone a fascist for appearing on a panel alongside Stefan while not voicing support for his ideas.
Yeah I think you're right that guilt by association wouldn't be the correct term, which is why I said "sort of" and clarified. Too lazy to look up what the correct term would be. I understand what you mean by the Hitler example, but if he genuinely does not understand Molyneux's views and what he stands for, then it wouldn't apply. Which of course would be hard to believe, but benefit of the doubt and all. My guess is that he does, but he doesn't agree with the label which would also be hard to argue.
 
LOL

In no universe is anarcho-capitalism the "exact opposite" of fascism. Anarcho-capitalism and fascism are both right-wing ideologies. Anarcho-capitalism is categorically, by definition, incapable of being the "exact opposite" of fascism.

This graphic is pretty much dead accurate as to where these ideologies place on the political spectrum. The only thing that's missing on the far-right is Monarchism. Fascism and anarcho-capitalism are both far-right ideologies. You really need to read more and stop getting your political education from youtube videos.

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As for stefan molyneux, I'm apparently more familiar with his work than you. He is an ethno-nationalist that believes refugees should be forced out of europe and that "whites" should have their own "homeland". You can be both an anarcho-capitalist and a fascist.

Fascism and a Anarcho-capitalism are absolutely mutually exclusive.

The reason you're confused on this issue is because you're using the wrong political spectrum:



When the political spectrum is viewed through the lens on how much political power the government weilds, you suddenly see Communism and Fascism are practically overlapping each other on the political spectrum, while Anarcho-capitalism is on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Glad I could clear that up for you!
 
Also, thanks @Farmer Br0wn for clearly outing yourself as a follower of Stefan Molyneux and by default outing yourself as a neo-nazi fascist! It will be good to have that knowledge about you going forward.

You act as though you're the only person who has ever failed at smearing me with false labels.

<Fedor23>

Nice try though!
 
I mean, that's being very generous of you.

When you have sympathies for ethno-nationalist pseudointellectual youtube personalities, chances are you're a white nationalist.

It's analogous to saying "you know Hitler had some great ideas! I don't agree with X and Y that he did, but I think he was right about a lot of stuff!" Expressing support for fascists makes you a fascist. I don't think guilt by association is accurate. Guilt by association would be like calling someone a fascist for appearing on a panel alongside Stefan while not voicing support for his ideas.

Mr. Molyneux has explicitly spoken against fascism. Your attempt at painting him as a fascist is proven false by empirical facts.



Another swing and a miss on your part.
 
Fascism and a Anarcho-capitalism are absolutely mutually exclusive.

The reason you're confused on this issue is because you're using the wrong political spectrum:
No, you're using the wrong political spectrum.


When the political spectrum is viewed through the lens on how much political power the government weilds, you suddenly see Communism and Fascism are practically overlapping each other on the political spectrum, while Anarcho-capitalism is on the complete other end of the spectrum.

Glad I could clear that up for you!


This is ahistorical nonsense, which I would expect from a reactionary such as yourself.

The correct lens through which to view the political spectrum is through preference for hierarchy. The more to the right you go, the higher the preference for hierarchy. The more to the left you go, the lesser the preference for hierarchy. That's why on the far-left you have communism, which is the near elimination of hierarchy and then you go further left, and you have anarcho-syndicalism, which is the absolute elimination of hierarchy.

On the right you have conservatism which is mild preference for hierarchy, then you have fascism, the hierarchy of one race or nation over all others, then you have monarchism - absolute hierarchy with one supreme leader, and anarcho-capitalism - the hierarchy of private capital/corporations over everyone else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_dominance_theory
Social dominance theory (SDT) is a theory of intergroup relations that focuses on the maintenance and stability of group-based social hierarchies.[1] According to the theory, group-based inequalities are maintained through three primary intergroup behaviors: institutional discrimination, aggregated individual discrimination, and behavioral asymmetry. The theory proposes that widely shared cultural ideologies (i.e., legitimizing myths) provide the moral and intellectual justification for these intergroup behaviors.

Social dominance theory was first formulated in 1999 by psychology professors and researchers, Jim Sidanius and Felicia Pratto.[1][2] The theory begins with the observation that human social groups tend to be organized according to group-based social hierarchies in societies that produce economic surplus. These hierarchies have a trimorphic (3-form) structure. This means that these hierarchies are based on (1) age (i.e., adults have more power and higher status than children), (2) sex (i.e., men have more power and higher status than women), and (3) arbitrary-set, which are group-based hierarchies that are culturally defined and do not necessarily exist in all societies. Arbitrary-set hierarchies can be based on ethnicity (e.g., Whites over Blacks in the U.S.), religion, nationality, and so on.

Human social hierarchies consist of a hegemonic group at the top and negative reference groups at the bottom. More powerful social roles are increasingly likely to be occupied by a hegemonic group member (for example, an older white male). Males are more dominant than females, and they possess more political power (the iron law of andrarchy). Most high-status positions are held by males.[1]

Researcher at University of Auckland, John Duckitt, accepts the concept of Social Dominance Orientation (SDO) and attempts to pair it to a related set of beliefs, Right Wing Authoritarianism (RWA).[4] A scale was produced to measure RWA, and it was focused on conventionalism, authoritarian aggression and authoritarian submission.[4] These three core authoritarian characteristics were identified in the sociology book, The Authoritarian Personality.[4]

Duckitt proposes a model in which RWA and SDO are produced by socialization in childhood, by personality, and by worldview beliefs.[citation needed] Punitive socialisation is hypothesised as a cause of social conformity. This conformity is predicted to lead to a view of the world as a dangerous, dog-eat-dog place.[citation needed] These correspond to high–RWA beliefs, and in turn influence ingroup and outgroup attitudes

https://psychology.iresearchnet.com/social-psychology/group/social-dominance-orientation/
Social dominance orientation (SDO) is a measure of an individual’s support for group-based hierarchies. It reflects a person’s attitudes toward hierarchies in general, as well as beliefs about whether one’s own group should dominate other groups. People with high SDO believe that society should be structured in terms of inequality, with some groups at the top (i.e., possessing more power and resources) and others at the bottom. People with low SDO, in contrast, believe that society should be structured in terms of equality, with no single group dominating others.

My political spectrum - grounded in mountains of political psychology and political science literature and scholarship
Your political spectrum - grounded in an ahistorical fact-free youtube video

Measuring the political spectrum by "hurrr durrr how big do you want the government?" is how children think of politics.
 
You act as though you're the only person who has ever failed at smearing me with false labels.

<Fedor23>

Nice try though!
"i support ethno nationalism and think minorities are genetically inferior but how dare you call me a fascist!"
 
"i support ethno nationalism and think minorities are genetically inferior but how dare you call me a fascist!"

Again, you're not the first person to try to smear me with incorrect labels.

You won't find any quote of me asserting any such thing.

You on the other hand, you're assigning unconnected and unstated ideas to others based upon your own ideological prejudices. What you're practicing in this thread is actually a form of bigorty.

Project much?
 
Ah', so now Liberals are FOR laws against flag burning.

Is their any issue whatsoever, you guys don't display your shameless hypocrisy on?
I’m liberal, and I support the right to burn the American flag.
I’m interested in what the criticism is in this thread. Is it the fact that they’re prohibited from burning the EU flag specifically (as opposed to the German flag)? Conservatives in this country have long opposed the right to burn our flag, wouldn’t they support laws like these? Or is this a “burning your nation’s flag=bad, but burning the flag of a group of nations=good because “Damn Our Globalist Overlords” type of issue?
 
Again, you're not the first person to try to smear me with incorrect labels.

You won't find any quote of me asserting any such thing.

You on the other hand, you're assigning unconnected and unstated ideas to others based upon your own ideological prejudices. What you're practicing in this thread is actually a form of bigorty.

Project much?
So, you just happen to like Stefan Molyneux, but you don't support his ideas about race or a white homeland? Why don't you clear this up for all of us?
 
So if you can't call a guy that advocates for ethnic cleansing, white-replacement conspiracies and scientific racism a fascist, who the fuck is? Do you have to be goose stepping down main street in an SS outfit while screaming "IM A FASCIST!" to be fairly called a fascist?
"Scientific racism."
 
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