George Soros funds Ferguson protests, hopes to spur civil action

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  1. Son of Jamin

    Son of Jamin Make MMA Great Again

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  2. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    Considering the Ferguson riots were an orgy of violence, looting, and destruction of the black community by the black community...

    I'd say George Soros is showing his sick, twisted, evil face again for all of us to see.
     
  3. Steve08

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    "Civil action", huh? :icon_lol:
    Nailed it, can't say much that you haven't already.
     
  4. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog Platinum Member

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    True humanitarian, to answer your question. This is a very important fight, and it's great that people with the means to fund the correct side are stepping up.
     
  5. AlucardNatasrd

    AlucardNatasrd Blue Belt

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    You mean the side that pillaged their own town to support an 18 year old man who strong-arm robbed a convenience store and had a 2nd degree murder rap-sheet?

    "Hands up, don't shoot" wasn't even uttered by Michael Brown. He was too busy bull rushing a cop and paying with it with his life.

    Very simply, if black Americans are tired of being shot by cops (which is odd as very few of them are), they should avoid attacking cops and commiting crimes.
     
  6. Jack V Savage

    Jack V Savage Secretary of Keepin' It Real/Nicest Guy on Sherdog Platinum Member

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    No, I was talking about the real world.

    Well, it goes backwards. Anytime a cop guns down an unarmed person, they're going to say, either "he was attacking me," or "he was reaching into his waistband." But the problems in Ferguson are much deeper than any single incident. The murder of Brown was just the last straw.

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/09/ferguson-worst-governments.html

    Upending that kind of tyrannical system should be one of our top priorities as a nation, and what Soros is doing should be commended.
     
  7. James Keith

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    Ok El Viejeto.
     
  8. Jack V Savage

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    It's funny you say that because while opposition to police brutality has been the only thing consistent about EV through his different characters, he actually was quite conflicted on this case. If you put principle ahead of tribalism, I'd think you'd be on Soros' side here, too.
     
  9. AlucardNatasrd

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    Save that the autopsy completely confirmed the cop's case, and the eye witnesses at the Grand Jury confirmed the story.

    There was no ambiguity here: The evidence pointed to Brown being a thug who got what was coming to him.

    Local governments are hardly tyrannical.

    The reason why Ferguson is a bad place to live is because of the bad people who live there. This badness revealed very notably by what they did when things turned ugly: turn on eachother and "burn that bitch down".

    Having some affordable housing is all well and good. I am not against that idea. Though it is interesting that the most Liberal areas of America tend to be the ones where so little is to be found in the way of affordable housing.
     
  10. IDL

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    George Soros just really cares about the people. Nothing else to see here, move along.
     
  11. Rex is Puerto Rican.

    Rex is Puerto Rican. And a fatass.

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    It's about time someone else picked up on it.
     
  12. Jack V Savage

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    Or rather, the cop crafted his story to fit with the information the police department had. Your last statement is highly misleading--many witnesses contradicted the cop's story, and the one that most closely conformed to it turned out to be fabricated.

    This is an unsupported assertion that is not accurate. Further, you repeated a false rumor in your post (the second-degree murder thing). I think it is reprehensible the way right-wing propagandists (not you, but the source of your false claim) are trying to smear a dead kid's rep in order to defend gov't oppression.

    Many, like Ferguson, are. Do you want more links? It doesn't seem that you've really followed this story at all (the false claims about Brown, the false claims about eye witnesses, the fact that you're unaware of the conditions in Ferguson, etc.). Maybe read up before commenting further. Just a tip.

    Many right-wingers claim to oppose oppressive gov't so the one good thing about Ferguson is that we're back to discussing things honestly on that front.
     
  13. AlucardNatasrd

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    The cop crafted his story to accomodate an autopsy that wasn't existent at the time?

    The liar may have been a liar - and should be prosecuted for perjury - but more witnesses, including blacks, had stories broadly conforming to the policeman.

    It does not appear to be a rumour whatsoever, but a very substantiated claim.

    http://www.aol.com/article/2014/08/...ael-browns-juvenile-criminal-record/20953546/

    http://www.inquisitr.com/1443591/did-michael-brown-have-a-criminal-record/

    The court denied the proposal.

    Regardless, we know Michael Brown was legitimately involved in a crime 30 minutes before he was shot. This man (he was not a child) was not an innocent, harmless, "gentle giant".

    I wouldn't say restricting building permits is especially problematic. Every local government in the US has zoning laws.

    The main reasons black people aren't represented in police forces is a complete lack of interest and often an incapacity to pass the tests. Even in cities where police departments are "minority majority", such as in NY, blacks continue to be subjected to disproportionate searches, primarily because they are disproportionate committers of crime. Blacks represent 13% of the population but account for over 50% of offenders. This is not to say that whites and other racial groups do not participate in crime, or that blacks should be punished more severely or exclusively, but that black people can expect to be subject to scrutiny when their neighbourhoods are the places where crime is committed.
     
  14. Jack V Savage

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    He crafted the story to fit what the police department knew about the case--and note that he didn't give his story until some time had already passed. There's no sense in which the autopsy confirms his story over all other stories.

    Not really.

    Both of your links have as their source an "independent journalist" with a long history of lying and or making huge mistakes (http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2...ke_princeton_newspaper_to_attack_the_nyt.html, http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/cory-booker-yes-i-live-in-newark#.omGL04P0z, http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/robert-menendez-prostitution-scandal-happened/story?id=18664472) tweeting that anonymous sources told him that. That's the definition of a rumor. And then it was discredited:

    http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_43c9bbbb-356f-5ea6-b9e2-7dde7e3e5c83.html

    Your information is dated.

    I see.

    Anyway, for non-whackos:

    http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-the-ferguson-crisis-20140821-column.html

    http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/...-justice-system-is-discriminatory-report.html

    http://www.governing.com/topics/public-justice-safety/gov-ferguson-missouri-court-fines-budget.html

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/ferguson-warrants-per-household_n_5698454.html

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...ack-st-louis-suburbs-hit-ticket-blitz-n185061

    http://www.newsweek.com/ferguson-profiling-police-courts-shooting-264744
     
  15. clmetal

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    Hmm, I wonder if you are just a troll. Some of the eye witnesses that created the chaos over the gentile giant's execution changed their story when speaking to the grand jury while others said they didn't actually see what happened.

    Also you're a member of the party of science (2014 the hottest year on record by hundredths of a percent) so wouldn't forensics rule? His blood was splattered on the officers gun and in the squad car
     
  16. Jack V Savage

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    Johnson also described a struggle, though (a tug-of-war through the car). So the fact that a shot was fired at close range doesn't settle that issue at all. As I said, Wilson's story fits but it's not the only one that does. And, really, if you're being honest, Wilson's story is straight-up ludicrous. "What's wrong with the sidewalk guys?" supposedly sends Brown into a murderous (and suicidal when Wilson takes out his gun) rage. If that were in a movie, people would laugh. But because it involves a black kid, anyone who doesn't believe it is a "troll" in your view.
     
  17. clmetal

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    There are eye witnesses that support Wilson's story as well, so it's a he said she said plus forensics. And some of the eye witness accounts are way more unbelievable (him pleading for his life after being shot and then bekng executed)

    He was called the gentile giant even though he has a sealed juvenile record (he turned 18 only months before), wore red and posted pictures of himself making gang signs that the bloods make and we saw video of him stealing cigars in the store owners face

    Anyways the main issue here and the reason Soros supposedly funded these protests is that tbis, like the Duke rape case, was representative of a bigger problem in the US. In this case, racist police officers picking on minorities and killing them for no reason and doing so with impunity. (With Duke it was privileged white kids abusing minorities)
     
  18. Jack V Savage

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    It's generally an issue of local gov't oppression, which is one of the biggest problems facing America, IMO. As I said, what Soros did is incredible, and he should be praised across the ideological spectrum here. I don't see anyone defending the corrupt Ferguson PD and gov't generally--just people ducking the issue to play identity politics. Just pretend that Brown was white if that helps you clarify the issue.

    BTW, this isn't directly related, but it's similar:

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/01/16/us/politics/ap-us-asset-forfeiture-program.html?_r=0

    Huge news on the fighting local tyranny front. And, again, credit goes to someone right-wing idiots hate.
     
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  19. Zankou

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    It doesn't sound like he did anything like what the thread implies.

    It sounds like he supported a number of groups with charitable contributions, a number of which happened to protest Ferguson (that's how they get their $$$, gotta get in the public's eye, gotta justify existence).

    That's different than just paying people to protest directly, which is pretty much a classic corruption move.
     
  20. MMA04

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    TS link appears to be dead. Anyone have a live link or should we all move along because there never was anything to see here?
     

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