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Social George Bush sitting with Ellen Degeneres at the Packers vs Cowboys game: Update Ellen Responds...

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  1. Confucamus

    Confucamus Last of the V8s Platinum Member

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    With the rise of the alt-Left, it seems that being an adult and respecting other people's political and personal beliefs is becoming rare. When your main mission is to shut down the speech and ideas of others on the other side of the political aisle, you have lost. You see it here on this forum a lot.
     
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    You don't know true friendship until you are friends with mass murderers and war criminals. Go Ellen!
     
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    jimmas99 Blue Belt

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    jamesmiller14 Hoosier Daddy

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    Goddamn perfect analogy
     
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    shockaholic12 Brown Belt

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    Working in the TV industry for a long time I can say Ellen has a pretty bad reputation for how she treats people. For whatever it’s worth.
     
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    Nah. Liberals are fucking traitors to this country.

    Traitorous scum
     
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  7. Ruprecht

    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Bush certainly campaigned on making gay-marriage illegal. Even if the bill was written and introduced in 2002, it featured prominently in his campaign. Don't you remember?
     
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    Props to Ellen for the way she handled all this. Just wish she could of found a US President who was not a War Criminal. Oh wait, never mind
     
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    Yeah I was front and center in SF when Newsome made it a national issue. Until he did it was just another obvious side note. When Gavin pushed for it and others followed is what matters. That was the ammo the Bush team needed. Had Gavin not done that there wouldnt have been ballot initiatives against it across the States.
     
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    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    From the "liberal" side it may have been cities allowing gay marriage which sparked a conservative reaction (although the Protection of Marriage bill predated Newsom's actions), but John Kerry was making the election about the War in Iraq, and Bush campaigned more heavily on the gay marriage issue.
     
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    Bush Jr has been on Ellen before, showcasing his artwork. So this isnt really surprising to me. They were known to like eachother.

    That was when I started to realize that since Trump became pres and made Jeb look bad, that they were parading Bush Jr around on daytime talk shows as a goofy, but talented and loveable ex president. A far cry from the vitriol he received just ten years before.

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Diplomat Peace Among Worlds

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    I remember the most interesting part in all of the debates was the Edwards/Cheney debate. Edwards asked Cheney about his daughter and gay marriage, and Dick just said "Thanks for the kind words."
     
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    I really wonder if Ellen and Obama got together if people would be bitching like they would. Obama was responsible for 396 civilian deaths due to drone strikes. I guess that wouldn't fit their narrative

    https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordeba...ace-of-drone-strikes-will-be-a-lasting-legacy
     
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    I'm aware of that. In fact that's my point. Republican voters were much less enthused with Bush in 2004 than the previous year. The left bringing up gay marriage in that election cycle gave the Bush campaign just what it needed to wake those Republican voters up.
     
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    So fat he can’t open his eyes all the way. That’s some srs heft right there..
     
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    Ruprecht Hands Of The Judges Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    So in other words you're blaming the SF mayor's gay marriage approval for Bush winning the presidential election in 2004, right...
    Even though the Protection of Marriage Act predated the mayor's actions, Bush deliberately campaigned on it as a national issue to distract from his war, and the primary focus from the left at every level was still on the War.
    Yet still Americans were happy to reelect him.
    Like I said, smoke screen.
     
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    Guy in the front row has a head like Thanos.
     
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    Not in other words, in your words.

    My point is the Bush campaign responded to 2004 push for gay marriage. You can take that blame game stuff back to the playground.

    The debate in my circle at the time was whether it was a good move to push gay marriage in an election cycle where the war was the issue.

    My position then and now it was stupid timing. Though I dont personally think it threw the election, Kerry is just that bad.

    Of course Bush wasnt going to run on the war and this gave them the perfect issue to get those voters out.

    It's just cause and affect man not blame game.
     
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    Why is anybody shocked that Ellen loves bush?
     
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